Solve Snow Plow Problem: Find Constant k

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Hi guys.

I am currently stuck on the classic snow plow problem. I have the following differential equation and initial conditions:
@ 7am plow starts off to clear snow at a constant rate
By 8am, plow has gone 4mi
By 9am, plow has gone an additional 3mi
Let t=0 when it started to snow, when did it start to snow. They gave the answer as 4:27am

k(dx/dt)=1/t

It wants me to find the constant k.

Here is my work:

∫k dx= ∫dt/t
kx +C = ln (t) At this point I am assuming that x is the independent variable and t is the dependent variable.

e^(kx) +C = t
Using the first initial condition of when it starts to snow of x(0)=0, I get the C is 0, therefore

e^(kx) = t. Using the second initial condition @8, x(t+1)=4

e^(4k)= t+1.

This is the point I get stuck. I can't seem to solve for k that has a real number.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Matthew R said:
kx +C = ln (t)
Right.
Matthew R said:
e^(kx) +C = t
Wrong.
 
Ok, looking back then the c would be e^c which would then be Ae^(kx)=t? But having initial condition of t(0)=1 would make A=0.
 
Matthew R said:
Ok, looking back then the c would be e^c which would then be Ae^(kx)=t? But having initial condition of t(0)=1 would make A=0.
At t=0, the snow plow was safely in its garage.
 
I understand that but will always result in a zero answer if A is 0.
 
Matthew R said:
I understand that but will always result in a zero answer if A is 0.
The equation you used to specify its motion is only valid when... what?
 
At t=0. So is A not a factor? Leaving e^kx=t? Then would I just plug in the next conditions and solve for k?
 
haruspex said:
The equation you used to specify its motion is only valid when... what?
Matthew R said:
At t=0.
No. t=0 is when it started snowing. At that time, the plow was going nowhere. The plow set off at 7 am. (We do not know when that was as a value of t.) The equation only applies while the plow is moving.
 
Matthew R said:
Hi guys.

I am currently stuck on the classic snow plow problem. I have the following differential equation and initial conditions:
@ 7am plow starts off to clear snow at a constant rate
By 8am, plow has gone 4mi
By 9am, plow has gone an additional 3mi
Let t=0 when it started to snow, when did it start to snow. They gave the answer as 4:27am

k(dx/dt)=1/t

It wants me to find the constant k.

Actually it doesn't; it wants you to find T, which is the time from when it started snowing until 7am. You do not need to know k in order to find this.

However I think you may have copied the question incorrectly, because as far as I can tell you end up with a sixth-order polynomial for T which doesn't have a root anywhere near the alleged answer of T = 2.55.
 
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pasmith said:
sixth-order polynomial for T
Do you mean a sixth order polynomial for ek?
pasmith said:
which doesn't have a root anywhere near the alleged answer of T=2.55
The root of interest is about 1.09, giving T about 2.55.
 
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