Solve the differential equation F=F0+kv

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The discussion focuses on solving the differential equation for a particle's velocity as a function of displacement, given the force F=F0+kv. Participants suggest using the relationship m\ddot{x}=F_0+k\dot{x} and consider variable substitution to simplify the second-order ODE to a first-order equation. There is an emphasis on ensuring dimensional consistency in equations, which is highlighted as an important skill often overlooked in education. The solution involves separating variables to derive an equation that relates x and v, ultimately leading to a solution that includes the natural logarithm. The conversation underscores the need for clarity in mathematical derivations and the importance of dimensional analysis.
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Homework Statement



Find the velocity of v as a function of displacement x for a particle of mass m which starts from rest at x=0 and subject to the following force:

F=F_0+kv

You could say mv = F0*t + kx, but the answer in the back of the book is an equation that is only in terms of x and v, not t. The answer in the back of the book involves ln.

Homework Equations



Maybe this:

\ddot {x}= \frac{d \dot{x}}{dx}

The Attempt at a Solution



m\ddot{x}=F_0 +k\dot{x}
m\dot{x} \frac{d\dot{x}}{dx}=F_0 +k\dot{x}
m\dot{x} d\dot{x} = F_0dx + k\dot{x} dx
\frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2 = F_0*x + ?
 
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The second equation you wrote down in your attempted solution is separable, but in order to separate it the side with dx should not depend on ##\dot x##.
 
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OmegaKV said:

Homework Statement


Find the velocity of v as a function of displacement x for a particle of mass m which starts from rest at x=0 and subject to the following force:
F=F_0+kv
You could say mv = F0*t + kx, but the answer in the back of the book is an equation that is only in terms of x and v, not t. The answer in the back of the book involves ln.

Homework Equations


Maybe this:
\ddot {x}= \frac{d \dot{x}}{dx}
Is this eq'n dimensionally correct?

The Attempt at a Solution


m\ddot{x}=F_0 +k\dot{x}
m\dot{x} \frac{d\dot{x}}{dx}=F_0 +k\dot{x}
m\dot{x} d\dot{x} = F_0dx + k\dot{x} dx
\frac{1}{2}m\dot{x}^2 = F_0*x + ?
 
rude man said:
Is this eq'n dimensionally correct?
Well, he is not actually using that equation. He is using ##\ddot x = \dot x \, d\dot x/dx##.
 
OmegaKV said:

Homework Statement



Find the velocity of v as a function of displacement x for a particle of mass m which starts from rest at x=0 and subject to the following force:
F=F_0+kv

The Attempt at a Solution


m\ddot{x}=F_0 +k\dot{x}
Assuming F0 and k are constants, how about a substitution of variables to reduce the 2nd order linear ODE into a 1st, then taking orodruin's hint to employ separation of variables to solve the new equation?
 
Orodruin said:
Well, he is not actually using that equation. He is using ##\ddot x = \dot x \, d\dot x/dx##.
Right, but he wrote it down & should learn to check for dimensional consistency, a powerful error-detecting tool that doesn't seem to be sufficiently emphasized in our classrooms.
 
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