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The discussion focuses on proving that if x = 5m + 6 and y = 5n + 6, then their product xy can be expressed as 5k + 6 for some integer k. The solution involves expanding the product to xy = 25mn + 30m + 30n + 36 and then rearranging it to show that it fits the form of 5k + 6. Participants emphasize that the proof is simpler than initially perceived, with one suggesting that the user was overcomplicating the process. Ultimately, the proof confirms that k can be defined as 5mn + 6m + 6n + 6. The discussion concludes with a reassurance that mathematical proofs can often be straightforward.
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[SOLVED] Proof Thery Exercise

Homework Statement



Prove the following statement, where m and n are integers:

If x = 5m + 6 and y = 5n + 6, then xy = 5k + 6 for some integer k.


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X = 5 m + 6, Y = 5 n + 6
X * Y = (5 m + 6) * (5 n + 6)
X * Y = (25 mn + 30 m + 30 n + 36)
5k + 6 = (25 mn + 30 m + 30 n + 36)
5k = (25 mn + 30 m + 30 n + 36) - 6
5k = (25 mn + 30 m + 30 n + 30)
k = (5mn + 6m + 6n + 6)
5k + 6 = 5 (5mn + 6m + 6n + 6) + 6

I am stuck, maybe its with another method like "Contradiction or Contrapositive" proof, any help will be appreciated.
 
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Go all the way back to your third step:

If you obtained xy=(25mn+30m+30n+36) for integer m and n, can you rewrite the righthand side in terms of 5k+6 for some integer k? Your last step essentially does this.

At step 4, you decided to assume what you wanted to be true and then proceeded from there without finding a contradiction so you got stuck.
 
cannibal said:
X = 5 m + 6, Y = 5 n + 6
X * Y = (5 m + 6) * (5 n + 6)
X * Y = (25 mn + 30 m + 30 n + 36)

Hi cannibal! :smile:

I think you're frightened of mathematical proofs, and you're expecting them to be much longer than they really are.

So when you got to line 3, which is really the end, you thought "it can't be this easy", and you just carried on going … :rolleyes:

All you had to do was add:

"So X*Y = 5k + 6, where k is the integer 5mn + 6m + 6n + 6." :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi cannibal! :smile:

I think you're frightened of mathematical proofs, and you're expecting them to be much longer than they really are.

So when you got to line 3, which is really the end, you thought "it can't be this easy", and you just carried on going … :rolleyes:

All you had to do was add:

"So X*Y = 5k + 6, where k is the integer 5mn + 6m + 6n + 6." :smile:



Oh i see, in i was really expecting the problem to be much longer, that is why i got stuck, Thank you very much for your help "tiny-tim" and "jhicks".

:approve:
 
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