Solving 3^x=12x-9 Algebraically: Step-by-Step Guide

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The equation 3^x = 12x - 9 presents challenges for algebraic solutions, with some participants suggesting the Lambert W-function as a potential method, although it is not commonly covered in precalculus. Graphing the functions reveals intersections at x = 3 and x = 1, which are confirmed as solutions. Participants express uncertainty about the algebraic approach, with one suggesting rearranging terms but lacking clarity on how it leads to a solution. The discussion emphasizes the difficulty of solving the equation algebraically and the importance of understanding advanced functions like the Lambert W-function. Overall, the consensus is that while graphical methods yield solutions, an algebraic solution may not be straightforward or feasible.
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3^x=12x-9

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I really have no clue how to solve this one algebraically.
I graphed the two functions on a calculator and found the points of intersection
the answers are 3 and 1

Can someone show me how to solve this problem algebraically, step by step?

I believe you use logs?

thanks
 
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physicsdreams said:
Can someone show me how to solve this problem algebraically, step by step?
No, we're not allowed to do that. That's against forum rules.

I'm not sure it can be solved algebraically. The solution provided by Wolfram used the Lambert W-function, but I have to confess that I don't remember what that is.
 


3^x=3(4x-3)
When does the left side equal the right side?
 


eumyang said:
No, we're not allowed to do that. That's against forum rules.

I'm not sure it can be solved algebraically. The solution provided by Wolfram used the Lambert W-function, but I have to confess that I don't remember what that is.

The function f(x)=xe^x is a one-to-one function if you restrict the domain to x in [-1,infinity). So it has an inverse. The inverse is the Lambert W-function. It's just a name for a function you can't express algebraically.
 


thanks guys for the help,
sorry about asking for the step by step, I'm new here.

as for the Lambert w-function, is it something one learns in Calculus or something?
I'm only in precalculus.
 


physicsdreams said:
thanks guys for the help,
sorry about asking for the step by step, I'm new here.

as for the Lambert w-function, is it something one learns in Calculus or something?
I'm only in precalculus.

I think I learned about it in a course called Mathematical Physics which is postcalculus, where you study all sorts of special functions associated with differential equations. I don't think are supposed to solve the equation like that. Do just what you did. Sketch the graph and guess the roots.
 


You can solve this algebraically.
 


<br /> 3^x = 3(4x-3)<br />

3^{x-1} = 4x-3
3^{x-1} + 3 = 4x
3^{x-2} + 1 = \frac{4x}{3}
\frac{3^{x-2}}{x} + \frac{1}{x} = \frac{4}{3}

See if you can go from there.
 


mjordan2nd said:
<br /> 3^x = 3(4x-3)<br />

3^{x-1} = 4x-3
3^{x-1} + 3 = 4x
3^{x-2} + 1 = \frac{4x}{3}
\frac{3^{x-2}}{x} + \frac{1}{x} = \frac{4}{3}

See if you can go from there.
And this is helpful...how?
 
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Mark44 said:
And this is helpful...how?

I am assuming that it is, in fact, impossible to solve algebraically?
I really don't see how moving everything around gets me closer to an answer.

Thanks for trying though, mjordan2nd, unless there really is a way to solve it by taking your route. Please feel free to give me a few more hints as to how this helps.

(I'm still learning here!)

Thanks
 
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Mark44 said:
And this is helpful...how?

Ahh, I suppose you're right. My thinking was you could simply equate the top with the top and the bottom with the bottom. In this case equating the bottom with the bottom gives x = 3, which happens to work in this case, but doesn't have to. My fault.
 
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