Solving a 3D Statics Problem: Identifying Unknown Angles in a Free Body Diagram

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The discussion focuses on solving a 3D statics problem involving the identification of unknown angles in a free body diagram. The main challenge is accurately drawing vector AD and determining the angle φ, which is defined as the angle from the x-axis in the x,z plane. Participants suggest using the coordinates of points A and D to find the vector (D - A) and then applying dot products with unit vectors to identify the angles. After clarification, the angle φ is determined to be 40 degrees, enabling the user to create a more accurate diagram. This collaborative approach highlights the importance of visual representation in solving complex statics problems.
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Homework Statement



[PLAIN]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/6546/statics.png

Homework Equations



Fy = F*cosθy
Fh = F*sinθy

Fx = Fh*cosφ = F*sinθy*cosφ
Fz = Fh*sinφ = F*sinθy*sinφ

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm having a lot of trouble drawing vector AD in a free body diagram. I think I need to draw one as that will help me further understand the solution that is worked out. I'm just having trouble identifying the angles that I should utilize and where on the diagram they should be placed. If someone could possibly draw up a diagram that helps with identifying what is what that would be very helpful.

Fy = F*cos30
Fh = F*sin30

You could say my main problem is identifying which is φ, I just cannot tell from the picture at all. What exactly is φ defined as, my book's definition is pretty vague.

Or am I going about this the wrong way?
 
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Hi VitaX! :smile:
VitaX said:
Fx = Fh*cosφ = F*sinθy*cosφ
Fz = Fh*sinφ = F*sinθy*sinφ

φ is the angle from the x-axis (in the x,z plane) :wink:

since the tension has to be along AD,

the easiest way to do this is to use O as the origin and to find the (x,y,z) coordinates of A and D …

then the vector (D - A) is the one you want, and you can find the angles by "dotting" it with each of the three unit vectors along the axes :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi VitaX! :smile:


φ is the angle from the x-axis (in the x,z plane) :wink:

since the tension has to be along AD,

the easiest way to do this is to use O as the origin and to find the (x,y,z) coordinates of A and D …

then the vector (D - A) is the one you want, and you can find the angles by "dotting" it with each of the three unit vectors along the axes :smile:

Ok thanks for that, determined it to be 40 degrees. Was finally able to get a good drawing of it.
 
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