Solving a Difficult Physics Problem: Induced EMF

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The discussion revolves around calculating the induced electromotive force (emf) in a rod moving along conducting rails within a magnetic field generated by a parallel wire. The initial calculation yielded an incorrect emf value, prompting users to reassess their integration approach and the variables used. Key points include clarifying the limits of integration and ensuring proper unit conversions, particularly for the distance 'a' given in millimeters. After adjustments, one participant confirmed that the revised integration method provided the correct results. The conversation highlights the importance of careful calculation and verification in solving complex physics problems.
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This problem is difficult to describe, so I'll post a picture.
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The figure above shows a rod of length L caused to move at a constant speed v along horizontal conducting rails. The magnetic field B (the magnitude and direction of which are qualitatively shown by the figure) is not constant, but is supplied by a long wire parallel to the conducting rails. This wire is a distance a from the rail and has a current i.

L=3.13 cm, v=3.11 m/s, a=15.6 mm, and i=11 A.

What is the induced emf (e) in the rod?

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B = (u_0 I)/(2pi y), and it is not uniform, so I integrated over y=a...L
I got (u_0 I)/(2pi)*ln(L/a).

emf = vBL = v * (u_0 I)/(2pi)*ln(L/a) * L = 3.11 * 1.544597242E-6 * 0.0313 = 1.503557293E-7 V

That is not the right answer, however.
I double-checked that my calculations are correct. So I'm guessing that my steps are incorrect. Can anyone point me to where I'm going wrong?

Thanks.
 
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I would try this;

B = \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi y}

a is a constant; y = a + L

\frac{dB}{dL} = \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi a + 2\pi L} \; dL

B = \int^{0.0313}_{0} \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi a + 2\pi L} \; dL

See if that works.

~H
 
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Shouldn't the integration be done over y=a..a+L?

EDIT: I'm always too slow :smile:.
 
B was approximately 3.326E-4, and emf was 3.23762818E-5 V, which was still incorrect.
Am I using the right L for emf = vBL? I'm using 3.13 cm (0.0313 m).
 
I think you may have integrated in correctly you should obtain;

B = \int^{0.0313}_{0} \frac{\mu_{0} I}{2\pi a + 2\pi L} \; dL

B = \left[ \frac{1}{2}\mu_{0}I \log (a + L) \right]^{0.0313}_{0}

Also ensure that you are converting correctly, note that a is given in mm. You are using the correct equation here;

nahya said:
Am I using the right L for emf = vBL? I'm using 3.13 cm (0.0313 m)

~H
 
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Thanks, that worked.
Weird, though, because I had used my calculator to graph the equation and integrate graphically.
 
nahya said:
Thanks, that worked.
Weird, though, because I had used my calculator to graph the equation and integrate graphically.

No problem. I prefer pen and paper :wink:

~H
 
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