Solving A Non Linear System With a Cube

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The problem involves solving a nonlinear system of equations represented by a quadratic and a cubic equation: X^2 - xy + 2y^2 = 8 and X^3 - xy^2 = 0. Participants are exploring various methods to find all solutions to this system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss factoring the cubic equation and substituting values into the quadratic equation. There are questions about the validity of solutions derived from the relationships x = ±y and how many distinct solutions this represents.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on factoring and substituting values, while others express uncertainty about the number of solutions and the correctness of their findings. Multiple interpretations of the results are being explored, and there is no explicit consensus on the total number of solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention struggling with the complexity of the equations and the expectations for the number of solutions, indicating potential constraints in their understanding or approach.

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Homework Statement


Find all solutions for the following system:
X^2-xy+2y^2=8
X^3-xy^2=0


2. Questions
What steps could I take to solve this? I've tried just about everything I can think of. I don't
know if I should solve the cubic equation for a variable and plug it in or what. I am petty stumped here guys.

The Attempt at a Solution


I took an x out of the x^3-xy^2 making it x(x^2-y^2)=0 and that is basically the only logical thing I have thought of. Thanks for any of your help!
 
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There are a couple of ways to go about this. You're on the right track with the second equation, just factor x^2 - y^2 and you'll be able to find three solutions to try in the first equation. Plug them into the first equation and solve for y. All in all you should get 4 solutions for y and 5 for x, making the total number of (x,y) pairs = 5*4 = 20
 
Ok so when I factor x^3-xy^2=0 I will get x=0 and x^2-y^2=0 which then results in x=±y. How else could I get answers for that. Does x=±y count as two answers? So my three answers from that second equation would be→x=0, x=y, x=-y.
 
I came up with (0,2), (0,-2), (-y,2), (-y,2), (y,2), (y,-2). And when I put y= 2 in I end up getting the same first two answers.
 
B18 said:
Ok so when I factor x^3-xy^2=0 I will get x=0 and x^2-y^2=0 which then results in x=±y. How else could I get answers for that. Does x=±y count as two answers? So my three answers from that second equation would be→x=0, x=y, x=-y.

Yes, of course y = ± x is two solutions; after all, they say two different things.

RGV
 
I agree, thanks for your help guys. I am still struggling a bit but I will try some more.
 
Does anyone else have another way about this I am not getting as many answers as I expect.
 
Well you've already found three solutions from the second equation(x = 0, x=-y and x=y), what happens when you plug these into the first equation and solve?
 
I end up with (0,2) (0,-2) and for the x= y I get some unfactorable stuff. I got (-y, root 2) and (-y, - root 2) I don't think that is correct tho but that is what I get hen substituting in -y for x in the first equation.
 

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