Solving A Non Linear System With a Cube

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The discussion focuses on solving the non-linear system of equations defined by X^2 - xy + 2y^2 = 8 and X^3 - xy^2 = 0. Participants suggest factoring the cubic equation to find solutions, leading to three key equations: x = 0, x = y, and x = -y. By substituting these values into the first equation, users derive multiple (x, y) pairs, ultimately identifying 20 solutions in total. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly interpreting solutions such as x = ±y as distinct answers.

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Homework Statement


Find all solutions for the following system:
X^2-xy+2y^2=8
X^3-xy^2=0


2. Questions
What steps could I take to solve this? I've tried just about everything I can think of. I don't
know if I should solve the cubic equation for a variable and plug it in or what. I am petty stumped here guys.

The Attempt at a Solution


I took an x out of the x^3-xy^2 making it x(x^2-y^2)=0 and that is basically the only logical thing I have thought of. Thanks for any of your help!
 
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There are a couple of ways to go about this. You're on the right track with the second equation, just factor x^2 - y^2 and you'll be able to find three solutions to try in the first equation. Plug them into the first equation and solve for y. All in all you should get 4 solutions for y and 5 for x, making the total number of (x,y) pairs = 5*4 = 20
 
Ok so when I factor x^3-xy^2=0 I will get x=0 and x^2-y^2=0 which then results in x=±y. How else could I get answers for that. Does x=±y count as two answers? So my three answers from that second equation would be→x=0, x=y, x=-y.
 
I came up with (0,2), (0,-2), (-y,2), (-y,2), (y,2), (y,-2). And when I put y= 2 in I end up getting the same first two answers.
 
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Ok so when I factor x^3-xy^2=0 I will get x=0 and x^2-y^2=0 which then results in x=±y. How else could I get answers for that. Does x=±y count as two answers? So my three answers from that second equation would be→x=0, x=y, x=-y.

Yes, of course y = ± x is two solutions; after all, they say two different things.

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I agree, thanks for your help guys. I am still struggling a bit but I will try some more.
 
Does anyone else have another way about this I am not getting as many answers as I expect.
 
Well you've already found three solutions from the second equation(x = 0, x=-y and x=y), what happens when you plug these into the first equation and solve?
 
I end up with (0,2) (0,-2) and for the x= y I get some unfactorable stuff. I got (-y, root 2) and (-y, - root 2) I don't think that is correct tho but that is what I get hen substituting in -y for x in the first equation.
 

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