Solving D'Alembert's Equation: Homework Help

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a car's acceleration on a slope, requiring the application of D'Alembert's equation. The user attempts to calculate the tractive effort, work done, and average power but struggles with the concepts and definitions, particularly regarding gravitational force and inertia resistance. Responses emphasize the importance of using Newton's second law instead of D'Alembert's equation for clarity and accuracy. Corrections are suggested for calculating the weight component acting down the slope and the net work done by all forces. The conversation highlights the need for a better understanding of fundamental physics principles to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



Hey, this is the first time i have ever done this and i like to know how to solve it.

A car with a mass of 1350kg is tested by having it accelerated up a road with a slope of 1 in 5,increasing in speed from 2.5 to 12 m/s,covering a distance of 100m, agaisnt a frictional force of 750 N.

Determine:

The tracktive effort between driving wheels and the road surface.

The work done during period of the acceleration
The average power developed.

The Attempt at a Solution



My first time doing tracktive efforts and Alemberts equation, but from what i gathered on the internet:

My tutor does not seem to understand English either, we all asked for tips and guidance, he replied with 'ask your friends'.

100x1/5 =20m

1350x9.81x20= 264870.

Don't ask where the 9.81 came from, i saw quite a few answers with it in so i guessed.
 
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You need to understand kinematics, Newton's laws, free body diagrams, Work, and/or energy. g = 9.81 m/s^2, the acceleration of gravity. Please make an attempt.
 
Ok here is my attempt, possibly all wrong.

I guessed the tracktive effort is 2100.2

I got this by looking at the D'Alembert's equation:

Tracktive effort = gravitational force + inertia resistence + frictional resistance.

For Gravitational force, i put 1350 as that is mass and a force, the inertia resistence 1 over 5 as that is the resistence going up a slope and for the frictional force 750 because it says so.

Therefore 1350 + 1/5 + 750 = 2100.2

B) is work done so the equation: force x Distance = 750 x 100 = 75000

C) Average power i looked upon the internet for the equation which is: Integral power over time divided by time interval.

So just grasping at straws here: 75000 divided by 1/5 = 375000.
 
Vancurt said:
Ok here is my attempt, possibly all wrong.

I guessed the tracktive effort is 2100.2

I got this by looking at the D'Alembert's equation:

Tracktive effort = gravitational force + inertia resistence + frictional resistance.
Are you being asked to use D'Alembert's equation? It has merit for certain problems, but in general, stick with Newton's 2nd Law.
For Gravitational force, i put 1350 as that is mass and a force,
1350 kg is the mass...its weight is 1350(9.81) or approximately 13,200 N... but you should be looking at the component of the weight acting down the plane
the inertia resistence 1 over 5 as that is the resistence going up a slope
you have a wrong definition of the inertia force...it is mass times acceleration (ma)
and for the frictional force 750 because it says so.
, acting down the plane
Therefore 1350 + 1/5 + 750 = 2100.2
rework the first 2 terms
B) is work done so the equation: force x Distance = 750 x 100 = 75000
the net work done is the work done by all forces , that is, the work done by the net force acting on the car, if this is what the problem is asking
C) Average power i looked upon the internet for the equation which is: Integral power over time divided by time interval.

So just grasping at straws here: 75000 divided by 1/5 = 375000.
really grasping...average power is force times average speed///
 
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