Solving Equality Problem in Complex Numbers

[kelvin490]

Suppose we have two equation x₁=Ae^iωt + Be^-iωt and x₂=A*e^-iωt + B*e^iωt . Where A and B are complex number and A* B* are their conjugate correspondingly.

Now if we want to make x₁ and x₂ exactly equivalent all the time, one way to do it is to have A=B* and B=A* so that x₁ and x₂ are equivalent. However, if we don't do it by this approach but instead set (A-B*)e^iωt=(A*-B)e^-iωt, then we have e^i2ωt=(A*-B)/(A-B*). I would like to ask if the A and B chosen can satisfy this criteria (even A≠B* and B≠A*), can we still say that x₁ ≡ x₂ ?

Another thing trouble me is if A=B* and B=A* , then e^i2ωt=(A*-B)/(A-B*)=0/0 which is undefined. What causes this problem?

 

[HallsofIvy]

Suppose we have two equation x₁=Ae^iωt + Be^-iωt and x₂=A*e^-iωt + B*e^iωt . Where A and B are complex number and A* B* are their conjugate correspondingly.

Now if we want to make x₁ and x₂ exactly equivalent all the time, one way to do it is to have A=B* and B=A* so that x₁ and x₂ are equivalent. However, if we don't do it by this approach but instead set (A-B*)e^iωt=(A*-B)e^-iωt, then we have e^i2ωt=(A*-B)/(A-B*). I would like to ask if the A and B chosen can satisfy this criteria (even A≠B* and B≠A*), can we still say that x₁ ≡ x₂ ?

What you are doing is saying that if Ae^{i\omega t}+ Be^{-i\omega t}= A^*e^{-i\omega t}+ B^*e^{-i\omega t} then we must have e^{2i\omega t}= \frac{A^*- B}{A- B^*}. However, the right side of that equation is a constant, independent of t. In order for that to be true, the left side must also be a constant- so what you are doing is equivalent to assuming that \omega= 0, a very restrictive condition!

Another thing trouble me is if A=B* and B=A* , then e^i2ωt=(A*-B)/(A-B*)=0/0 which is undefined. What causes this problem?

If A= B^* then B must equal A^*- that is not a distinct condition. And in that case you are saying x_1= Ae^{i\omega t}+ A*e^{-i\omega t} and x_2= A*e^{-i\omega t}+ Ae^{i\omega t}, that is, that x_1= x_2 for all t. That is exactly what you said you wanted. There is no "problem". If you have two identical equation, say "px= qy" and "px= qy" and subtract them you get 0x= 0y, of course. It would make no sense to try to "solve for y" in that case, you would just get 0/0 as happens here.

 

[mathman]

The two orignal expressions are complex conjugates of each other. Therefore to be equal, the imaginary part must be 0.

 

[kelvin490]

I think the concept of linear independence can help. Since e^-iωt and e^iωt are two linearly independent variables, the coefficient of x₁ and x₂ must be equal so that x₁ and x₂ are equivalent.

Also from (A-B*)e^i2ωt=(A*-B) we can see that the left hand side is a time dependent function (let's say t is time) and the other side is a constant. The only way to make both sides equal all the time is to have A=B* and B=A*.