Solving for Tension & Acceleration of Forces in Diagram

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving forces, tension in strings, and acceleration of masses depicted in a diagram. Participants are tasked with determining the tension, acceleration, and distance traveled by the masses over a specified time interval.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations for acceleration based on a free body diagram (FBD) for three different masses. They express uncertainty about how to proceed after forming the equations and question the feasibility of equating them simultaneously. Another participant suggests substituting expressions for tensions into one of the equations to simplify the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring algebraic manipulations and checking for errors in their calculations. There is a focus on verifying the correctness of the derived equations and ensuring consistency in the results.

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i drew a digram for the forces and i found out the equations for accerleration... then I'm stuck...

Question: Determine the tension in the strings, the acceleration, and how far the masses will go in 2.0s. (See attachement)

Well i drew a FBD, ,and i got three eqations for accerleration:
for mass 1 (100g):
A = (T2 - M1*G)/(M1)
A = (T2 - 0.1*9.8)/(0.1)

mass 2: (200g, on the floor)
A = (T1 - T2)/(M2)
A = (T1 - T2)/(0.2)

mass 3: (200g, going down on the right)
A = (M3*G - T1)/(M3)
A = (0.2*9.8 - T1)/(0.2)

Then what should i do after this? i can't equate 3 equations at once... can i?
 

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Tensaiga said:
i drew a digram for the forces and i found out the equations for accerleration... then I'm stuck...

Question: Determine the tension in the strings, the acceleration, and how far the masses will go in 2.0s. (See attachement)

Well i drew a FBD, ,and i got three eqations for accerleration:
for mass 1 (100g):
(1) A = (T2 - M1*G)/(M1)
A = (T2 - 0.1*9.8)/(0.1)

mass 2: (200g, on the floor)
(2) A = (T1 - T2)/(M2)
A = (T1 - T2)/(0.2)

mass 3: (200g, going down on the right)
(3) A = (M3*G - T1)/(M3)
A = (0.2*9.8 - T1)/(0.2)

Then what should i do after this? i can't equate 3 equations at once... can i?
Why not? After all, if the string does not break the accelerations are all the same. Try inserting the expressions for T1 and T2 from equations 1 and 3 into 2. That will give you an equation with only one unknown: A.

AM
 
yea i tried that, but a strange number came out... i will try again, maybe it's a algebra error.
 
Tensaiga said:
yea i tried that, but a strange number came out... i will try again, maybe it's a algebra error.
Your equations look right. Did you solve for both tensions and for the acceleration? If so, there is an easu way to tell if you made an algebra mistake: just plug back your values in the initial equations! If it does not work, it shows that you made an algebra mistake.

Patrick
 

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