Solving for the impulse response of a discrete time system?

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The discussion centers on clarifying the coefficients a_0 and b_0 in the context of impulse response for discrete time systems. Users express confusion over the definitions and derivations of these coefficients, particularly in relation to specific equations in the textbook. It is noted that b_0 is derived from the term b_0f[k] in equation 9.36, and in the absence of such a term, b_0 equals zero. Additionally, a_0 is identified as the coefficient in the a_0f[k] term, which can also be zero if not present. The conversation highlights the importance of clear examples in understanding these concepts.
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Hey guys I was just studying for finals and I came across something in my textbook that either wasn't explained properly or something I just don't get.
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So this page explains that the coefficient of y_n[k] is A_0, which is represented by b_0/a_0, I can see that a_0 is determined by multiplying the characteristic modes of the equation, but I'm not sure where b_0 comes from. Thanks for any clarification.
 

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Bump. I just need a little clarification on how to find a_0 and b_0, I have a pretty good grasp on the concepts.
 
If want help from the general mathematical population, you should give a complete statement of the problem. A communications engineer might be able to infer what is in Appendix 9.1, what is in example 3.4, and how ##a_0## and ##b_0## are defined. However, the typical helpful mathematician won't know what you are asking.
 
b0 is the coefficient in the b0f[k] term on the right hand side of 9.36. You can trace where it comes from and goes to from there. In this case, there is no such term, so b0 = 0.

EDIT: This post originally had a0s where it should have been b0s. It has been corrected.
 
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FactChecker said:
a0 is the coefficient in the a0f[k] term on the right hand side of 9.36. You can trace where it comes from and goes to from there. In this case, there is no such term, so a0 = 0.
Ohhhhh thank you so much! I would have picked up on it if they used an example that had a nonzero b_0 haha.
 
Typically a_0 and b_0 would be t=0 coefficient of a typical IIR filter. See the below example

http://123.physics.ucdavis.edu/week_5_files/filters/digital_filter.pdf

FactChecker said:
a0 is the coefficient in the a0f[k] term on the right hand side of 9.36. You can trace where it comes from and goes to from there. In this case, there is no such term, so a0 = 0.

I disagree... look at 9.35 (or 9.36) and reference page 10 of my above link.
a_0=-0.16
b_0=0
 
Sorry, my post #4 should have been saying b0, not a0. I will edit it.
 
FactChecker said:
Sorry, my post #4 should have been saying b0, not a0. I will edit it.
I picked up on that, I probably should have mentioned it but I was just excited it clicked and just went back to studying haha. Thanks regardless.
 
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