Discrete-time Signal & Periodicity condition

In summary, the periodicity condition for discrete-time signals, as explained by Oppenheim's Signals & Systems, states that for a DT signal to be periodic, the complex exponential must satisfy the equation ej*w(n+N) = ej*w*n, where w/2*pi = m/N and m/N is a rational number. This is to ensure that ej*w*N = 1 for periodicity. However, even though m=9, N=3, and m/N = 3, which is not a rational number, the equation still yields 1 for ej*2*pi*9, making it a valid instance of a periodic discrete-time signal. This is because 3 is considered a rational number (3/1).
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I seek a clarification on the periodicity of discrete-time (DT) signals.
Namaste

I seek a clarification on the periodicity condition of discrete-time (DT) signals.

As stated in Oppenheim’s Signals & Systems, for a DT signal, for example the complex exponential, to be periodic, i.e.

ej*w(n+N) = ej*w*n,

w/2*pi = m/N, where m/N must be a rational number.

Above is simply to satisfy the condition that ej*w*N = 1.

Please help me see why m=9, N=3, and, thereby, m/N = 3, which is not a rational number, yet still yielding 1 for ej*2*pi*9, not be considered a valid instance of a periodic discrete-time signal.

Would greatly appreciate a refutation and a chance to stand corrected.

Thank you.
 
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3 *is* a rational number (3/1).

Your first equation above is satisfied for m = integer, which is a different way of expressing your rational condition that might be clearer.
 
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1. What is a discrete-time signal?

A discrete-time signal is a type of signal that is only defined at specific points in time, rather than continuously. It is often represented as a sequence of numbers or values, with each value corresponding to a specific time interval.

2. How is a discrete-time signal different from a continuous-time signal?

A continuous-time signal is defined at every point in time, while a discrete-time signal is only defined at specific points in time. Additionally, a continuous-time signal can take on any value within a given range, while a discrete-time signal can only take on a finite set of values.

3. What is the periodicity condition for discrete-time signals?

The periodicity condition for discrete-time signals states that a signal is periodic if it repeats itself after a certain number of samples. In other words, if the signal repeats itself every N samples, where N is a positive integer, then it is considered periodic.

4. How is the period of a discrete-time signal determined?

The period of a discrete-time signal is determined by finding the smallest positive integer N for which the signal repeats itself. This can be done by analyzing the values of the signal and looking for any patterns or repetitions.

5. What are some examples of discrete-time signals?

Some examples of discrete-time signals include digital audio signals, stock market data, and sampled measurements from sensors. These signals are often used in digital signal processing, telecommunications, and other fields where data is collected at specific time intervals.

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