Solving Gaussian Integral with Integration by Parts

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of a Gaussian integral, specifically the integral of the form \(\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{-Ax^{2}}dx\). Participants are exploring the application of integration by parts to transform the integral into a more manageable form, while also attempting to reconcile their results with known formulas.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply integration by parts to the integral, raising questions about the correctness of their transformation and the resulting expression. Some participants suggest differentiating the function used in integration by parts and question the original poster's approach to finding the anti-derivative.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the integration steps taken by the original poster, with some participants providing corrective feedback on the differentiation process. The discussion includes multiple interpretations of the integration by parts method, and while some guidance has been offered, there is no explicit consensus on the resolution of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for solving the integral. The original poster expresses confusion about missing factors in their final result, indicating potential assumptions or missteps in their calculations.

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I see that the formula for this general integral is

\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{-Ax^{2}}dx=\frac{\sqrt{\pi}}{2A^{3/2}}

However, I am not getting this form with my function. I transformed the integral using integration by parts so that I could use another gaussian integral that I knew at the time.

\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx

Let u = x^{2} \rightarrow du = 2x dx

and

dv = e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx \rightarrow v = -\frac{\hbar}{4amx}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}

Therefore,\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx = \left x^{2}\left(-\frac{\hbar}{4amx}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}\right)\right|^{+\infty}_{-\infty}-\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty}\left(-\frac{\hbar}{4amx}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}\right)2xdxThe middle term equals zero, so letting z =\left(\sqrt{2am/\hbar}\right)x \rightarrow dx= \left(\sqrt{\hbar/2am}\right)dz gives\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx = \frac{\hbar}{2am}\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}\right)dx=\left(\frac{\hbar}{2am}\right)^{3/2}\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty}e^{-z^{2}}dz =\left(\frac{\hbar}{2am}\right)^{3/2}\sqrt{\pi}

which is not in the appropriate form--missing a factor of 1/2. I can't see where I am going wrong. Any thoughts?
 
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Take your function v and differentiate to get dv. It's not what you say it is. Use the product rule. You usually handle this problem by differentiating the integral of exp(-Ax^2) with respect to A.
 
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Yes, this is exactly right. Thanks dick. I forgot to consider the 'x'.
 
buffordboy23 said:
I see that the formula for this general integral is

\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{-Ax^{2}}dx=\frac{\sqrt{\pi}}{2A^{3/2}}

However, I am not getting this form with my function. I transformed the integral using integration by parts so that I could use another gaussian integral that I knew at the time.

\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx

Let u = x^{2} \rightarrow du = 2x dx

and

dv = e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx \rightarrow v = -\frac{\hbar}{4amx}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}
No, this is incorrect. It looks like you are taking the derivative rather than the anti-derivative. e^{-x^2} does NOT have an elementary anti-derivative.

I would recommend taking u= x, dv= x e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx [/quote] instead.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Therefore,<br /> <br /> <br /> \int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx = \left x^{2}\left(-\frac{\hbar}{4amx}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}\right)\right|^{+\infty}_{-\infty}-\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty}\left(-\frac{\hbar}{4amx}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}\right)2xdx<br /> <br /> <br /> The middle term equals zero, so letting z =\left(\sqrt{2am/\hbar}\right)x \rightarrow dx= \left(\sqrt{\hbar/2am}\right)dz gives<br /> <br /> <br /> \int^{+\infty}_{-\infty} x^{2}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}dx = \frac{\hbar}{2am}\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty}e^{\frac{-2amx^{2}}{\hbar}}\right)dx=\left(\frac{\hbar}{2am}\right)^{3/2}\int^{+\infty}_{-\infty}e^{-z^{2}}dz =\left(\frac{\hbar}{2am}\right)^{3/2}\sqrt{\pi}<br /> <br /> which is not in the appropriate form--missing a factor of 1/2. I can&#039;t see where I am going wrong. Any thoughts? </div> </div> </blockquote>
 

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