Solving Geometric Series: Find x Values |r|<1

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The discussion focuses on finding the values of x for which geometric series converge, specifically addressing the series 2 + 4x + 8x^2 + 16x^3 and 5 + 25(3x + 4) + 125(3x + 4)^2. The convergence condition for the first series is established as |r| < 1, leading to the conclusion that -1/2 < x < 1/2. For the second series, the ratio is identified as r = 5(3x + 4), and the next step involves solving the inequality |5(3x + 4)| < 1, which simplifies to -1 < 5(3x + 4) < 1. After solving this inequality, the correct range for x is found to be -7/5 < x < -19/15. The discussion also touches on the geometric interpretation of modulus and how it relates to the convergence of series.
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I am having a little trouble with some questions on geometric series'
For example, Find the values of x for which the following geometric series converge
I have done the first one easy enough
2+4x+8x^2+16x^3...
r=2x
|r|&lt;1
|x|&lt;\frac{1}_{2}
\frac{-1}{2} &lt; x &lt; \frac{1}_{2}

But then it gets more difficult and adds more to the question for example
5+25(3x+4)+125(3x+4)^2
I get r=5(3x+4)
so |5(3x+4)|&lt;1

But then I am stuck as to what to do next any hints on how to go about these questions would be appreciated.
 
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It's the same kind of story to explicitate the modulus...

\left|a\right|&lt;b\Leftrightarrow -b&lt;a&lt;b

Thankfully,the ratio is linear in "x"...

Daniel.

EDIT:Halls,this is the kind of terminology i had been used to in high school.Always the teacher said about "modulus explicitation" (sic!)...
 
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"explicate the modulus"?? Wow! Them big words is too much for me!

Briggs, what dextercioby means is: |5(3x+4)|< 1 is exactly the same as

-1< 5(3x+4)< 1. Now solve for x.
 
HallsofIvy said:
"explicate the modulus"??

It's explicitate! :-p
 
Thanks for the help, it seems quite simple now that you have shown me the next step, I get

-1&lt;15x+20&lt;1

\frac{-1-20}{15}&lt;x&lt;\frac{1-20}{15}

\frac{-7}{5}&lt;x&lt;\frac{-19}{15}

Which is the correct answer so thanks a lot for the help :smile:
 
To help vizualize this geometrically, imagine a point P on the number line. Then, all points X that are strictly inside a distance d from the fixed point P, are given by the equation : |X-P| < d

In other words, this means that X is the set of points in (P-d, P+d). This follows directly from the definition of the modulus :

Definition : |x| = x if x > 0 and |x| = -x if x <= 0

Derivation of Geometric Statement : |X-P| = X-P if X > P and |X-P| = P - X, otherwise (from def'n.)

In the first case (when X > P), |X-P| < d means that X-P < d or X < P+d. So : P < X < P+d

In the second case (when X <= P) |X-P| < d means that P-X < d or X > P-d. So : P-d < X <= P

Combining the above two cases, you see that |X-P| < d gives P-d < X < P+d.

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