Solving Gravitation Energy 2: Find Velocity at Ground from Height h & Radius R

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The discussion focuses on deriving an expression for the velocity of a mass m falling from a height h above a star's surface with radius R. The key equations involve gravitational potential energy and acceleration due to gravity. An initial attempt at the solution reveals a missing negative sign, leading to an incorrect expression. After corrections, the derived formula for the velocity upon impact is expressed as v^2 = 2g(R/(R+h) + 1). The collaborative effort ultimately leads to a successful resolution of the problem.
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Homework Statement


Mass m is left to fall from height h above the surface of a star with radius R. derive an expression for the velocity it hits the ground, using R, h and the acceleration g

Homework Equations


The energy: ##E=\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{GMm}{r}##
The acceleration: ##g=\frac{GM}{r}##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\frac{GMm}{R+h}=\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{GMm}{R}$$
$$\frac{GM}{R+h}=\frac{v^2}{2}-g$$
This expression doesn't give the desired one: ##\sqrt{\frac{2Rgh}{R+h}}##
 
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Karol said:

Homework Statement


Mass m is left to fall from height h above the surface of a star with radius R. derive an expression for the velocity it hits the ground, using R, h and the acceleration g

Homework Equations


The energy: ##E=\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{GMm}{r}##
The acceleration: ##g=\frac{GM}{r}##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\frac{GMm}{R+h}=\frac{1}{2}mv^2-\frac{GMm}{R}$$
The term on the left above is missing a negative sign.

$$\frac{GM}{R+h}=\frac{v^2}{2}-g$$
This expression doesn't give the desired one: ##\sqrt{\frac{2Rgh}{R+h}}##
What does your expression give for a result?
 
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$$-\frac{GM}{R+h}=\frac{v^2}{2}-g$$
$$-\frac{RGM}{R(R+h)}=\frac{v^2}{2}-g$$
$$-\frac{Rg}{(R+h)}=\frac{v^2}{2}-g$$
$$v^2=2g\left( \frac{R}{R+h}+1 \right)$$
 
I solved it thanks to your remark, bye
 
*removed* posted at same time as Karol solved it.
 
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