Solving Multiple Integrals - Understanding Triangle Area Calculation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the area of triangles in the context of multiple integrals, specifically addressing a scenario where the area of two right-angled triangles is being evaluated. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the area calculation, noting discrepancies between their understanding and the book's assertion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the area of triangles, questioning the application of the area formula and the role of the integrand in the calculation. There is discussion about the dimensions of the triangles and how they relate to the overall area being computed.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering clarifications about the integrand's impact on the area calculation. There is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the area of the triangles and the integration process, but no consensus has been reached.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the area formula and the interpretation of the integrand in the context of the problem. The original poster's understanding of the area of the triangles is challenged by others, leading to further exploration of the topic.

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I understand the steps, although it took quite a while, but what I don't understand is that a triangle with base 2 and height 2, it's area is 2. With two triangles of that size the area should be 4. The books says the area is 8.
 
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You see, the book is not calculating the area of the triangle, but the area times two (there's a two in the integrand)
 
one point of the base is -2,-2, the other point is 0,-2 - looks like base 2 to me
 
Consider the 2 right-angled triangles as a whole isosceles triangle. Then, the base of that isosceles triangle is 4 and the height is 2. The formula for calculating the area is still the same, meaning 1/2 x base x height = 1/2 x 4 x 2 = 4. Multiply that 4 by 2 (from the integrand) and you get the answer = 8.

Now, if you use the double integral given, you should get the same answer.
 
sharks said:
The formula for calculating the area is still the same, meaning 1/2 x base x height = 1/2 x 4 x 2 = 4.
That to me is the answer.

Multiply that 4 by 2 (from the integrand) and you get the answer = 8.
Why are you doing that?
 
robertjford80 said:
Why are you doing that?

OK, now that you agree that the area of the whole triangle is 4, we go back to look at your problem, which is:
[tex]\iint 2\,.dpdv[/tex]
Ignore the limits (just to simplify your understanding). Notice the "2". That's what we call the integrand. Note that the integrand is a constant in this case. The integrand could have been anything. As a general rule, all constants in integrands can be "pulled out" of the integration. So, we get the following which is equivalent:
[tex]2\iint \,.dpdv[/tex]
The area of the entire triangle in the figure is given by:
[tex]\iint \,.dpdv[/tex]
And you have seen that the area of the entire triangle is 4. What does this mean? It just means that:
[tex]\iint \,.dpdv=4[/tex]
If you just put it all back together:
[tex]\iint 2\,.dpdv=2\iint \,.dpdv=2\times 4 =8[/tex]
 
ok, thanks.
 

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