Solving Natural Logs: y=(sqrt(8x^4-5))/(x-1)

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The discussion revolves around the application of natural logarithms to the function y = (sqrt(8x^4-5)) / (x-1). Participants are examining the correct way to express the natural logarithm of the function after taking the logarithm of both sides.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster presents two potential expressions for the natural logarithm of the function and questions which one is correct. Participants discuss the validity of both expressions and the application of logarithmic properties.

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There is a mix of opinions regarding the correctness of the expressions provided. Some participants assert that both expressions are valid, while others suggest that the second expression is simpler and more acceptable. The discussion reflects an exploration of logarithmic properties without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants are considering the rules of logarithms, specifically how to apply them to the given function, and are navigating the nuances of expressing logarithmic identities correctly.

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I have the following function:

y= (sqrt(8x^4-5)) / (x-1)

take the natural log of both sides:

1) ln y= ln (sqrt( 8x^4-5) - ln (x-1)

OR

2) ln y= 1/2 ln(8x^4-5) - ln (x-1)

Which one is correct?

I know when i take the natural log of a/b its ln(a)- ln(b)... but also when i take the natural log of a^q its qln(a)...does that apply in this situation also or is it just ln(a)- ln(b)?
 
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The second would would be the correct option.
 
ok i thought so...thanks!
 
They're both correct. ln (sqrt( 8x^4-5)) = ln (8x^4 - 5)1/2 = (1/2) ln(8x^4 - 5)
 
Both are correct. The second is simpler and more likely to be accepted as the "correct" way.
 

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