Solving Physics Assignment: Car Acceleration in Uniform Plane

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The discussion centers around a physics assignment involving the acceleration of a car on a uniform plane with a specific coefficient of friction. The original poster seeks clarification on why the maximum acceleration of the car is defined as the product of the coefficient of friction and the acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the car, including weight, normal reaction, and friction, while neglecting other forces like air resistance. There are inquiries about the relationship between the coefficient of friction and the maximum frictional force, as well as the implications of assuming a mass for the car.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the implications of friction and acceleration. Some have provided guidance on how to approach the calculation of maximum frictional force and its relation to acceleration, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding mass and the effects of increased engine power.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made in the problem, particularly regarding the neglect of air resistance and the choice of mass for the car. Participants are also considering the practical implications of exceeding the maximum frictional force.

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hi, i am new to physics forums. forgive me if i post the thread in wrong forum.
i have a question regarding my assignment.
Q: a car travels in a uniform plane whose coeff. of friction is A. the max. acceleration that the car can have is Ag, where g is acceleration of gravity.Explain. [university physics, 4-6]
i would appreciate any help. thanks
 
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What forces act on the car?

How can you use the coefficient of friction to calculate the friction force?
 
Doc Al said:
What forces act on the car?

How can you use the coefficient of friction to calculate the friction force?

as far as i know, the forces would be weight of the car, normal rxn from surface and friction..we will be neglecting all other forces like air resistance and so on...

i think max frictional force= coeff. of friction *normal rxn.
and we are talking about a level road. so i presume max. friction would be coeff of frc. * acc. due to gravity ( assuming mass of car=1 kg).
but i can't figure out why the acc. of the car can be no more than A*g, where A is coeff. of friction and g is acc. due to gravity.

thanks for help
 
physicsA380 said:
as far as i know, the forces would be weight of the car, normal rxn from surface and friction..we will be neglecting all other forces like air resistance and so on...
Excellent.

i think max frictional force= coeff. of friction *normal rxn.
and we are talking about a level road. so i presume max. friction would be coeff of frc. * acc. due to gravity ( assuming mass of car=1 kg).
Good. But instead of assuming a mass for the car, call the car's mass "m". What's the max friction force then?
but i can't figure out why the acc. of the car can be no more than A*g, where A is coeff. of friction and g is acc. due to gravity.
You've found the max friction force (the only horizontal force acting on the car); now find the associated max acceleration. Use Newton's 2nd law.
 
i think i got it...what happens if they made a very powerful engine...would the car skid if the engine is put on full power...

thanks
 
Yes it would. If you apply more torque to the wheels than friction can deal with, the tires have no choice but to slip along the road surface.

The same thing can happen when braking, if you brake too hard. If you slow the wheels down faster than friction can deaccelerate the car, then the tires slip. Slipping is bad because you exchange static friction for kinetic friction, which provides less force with which to control and slow down the car. That's why (at least in older cars) you shouldn't "jam on the brakes" to stop--if you push too hard you start to slip and lose static friction. This is called "locking the brakes". Most cars these days come with "anti-lock" brakes that sense and prevent slipping better than a person can. (With ABS it's OK to jam on the brakes in an emergency.)
 

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