Solving Polynomials: Hints, Techniques & Solutions

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The discussion revolves around solving a complex trigonometric equation involving sine and cosine functions divided by powers of x. Participants express challenges in finding an analytic solution and seek hints or techniques for approaching the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants have attempted numerical methods and software tools to identify solutions graphically. Others question the feasibility of an analytic solution and discuss the nature of the equation, clarifying that it is not a polynomial.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing skepticism about finding an analytic solution. Some have suggested sticking with numerical techniques, while others have noted the equation's complexity and the challenges in simplification.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the difficulty of using LaTeX for formatting and clarify that the original equation does not fit the definition of a polynomial, which has led to some confusion in terminology.

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Homework Statement



Solve for x,

225*sin(x)/x^6-225*cos(x)/x^5-90*sin(x)/x^4+15*cos(x)/x^3-5/(2*x^3)=0


Homework Equations



Finding this very complicated to solve, are there any useful hints or techniques we should know about?


The Attempt at a Solution



Have used numerical method using mathematics software and plotted a graph to identify where the function crosses the x-axis. Would prefer a more analytic approach.

Thank you in advance.
 
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ts547 said:

Homework Statement



Solve for x,

225*sin(x)/x^6-225*cos(x)/x^5-90*sin(x)/x^4+15*cos(x)/x^3-5/(2*x^3)=0


Homework Equations



Finding this very complicated to solve, are there any useful hints or techniques we should know about?


The Attempt at a Solution



Have used numerical method using mathematics software and plotted a graph to identify where the function crosses the x-axis. Would prefer a more analytic approach.

Thank you in advance.

I think that you are out of luck regarding an analytic solution.

BTW, is this your equation?
[tex]225\frac{sin(x)}{x^6} - 225 \frac{cos(x)}{x^5} - 90\frac{sin(x)}{x^4} + 15\frac{cos(x)}{x^3} - \frac{5}{2x^3} = 0[/tex]
 
Yeh that's it. I haven't learned how to do the fancy writing yet. I didnt think there would be an easy way of doing this.
 
Unless there's some funny trick to recognize here, there's no way to solve this algebraically. It's best to use a numerical technique. i.e. Bisection method, Newton's method, etc.
 
ts547 said:
Yeh that's it. I haven't learned how to do the fancy writing yet. I didnt think there would be an easy way of doing this.
You can see the LaTeX I wrote by clicking the equation.
 
Heck, I managed to simplify it this equation (check work?):

[tex] (\frac{15}{x^3} - \frac{6}{x})sin(x) + (1 - \frac{15}{x^2})cos(x) = \frac{1}{6}[/tex]

Edit: LaTeX isn't the easiest, heh. Also, I'm not sure that simplification is even very useful.
 
I hope that you are aware that this is not a matter of "solving polynomials"! The equation you give is not a polynomial.
 
Apphysicist - Haha good simplification. Not very useful I don't think. :) Never mind ill stick with the numerical approach.

HallsofIvy - Ok no its not a polynomial. Didnt know what else to call it at the time. If your so clever help me with this

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=3075732#post3075732

then you can point out technicalities all you want.
 

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