Solving Question 14: I HAVE NO IDEA WHY MY ANSWER IS WRONG!

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The discussion centers on a physics problem regarding the calculation of work done against gravity and friction. The user initially calculated the work done as 375 J by considering the forces acting down the slope but was confused by the correct answer of 750 J. Key points include the distinction between calculating work done along the slope versus using height for gravitational potential energy. It was clarified that the work done should account for the entire distance along the slope, not just the vertical height. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between forces, distance, and energy in solving physics problems.
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http://www.xtremepapers.com/CIE/International%20A%20And%20AS%20Level/9702%20-%20Physics/9702_w10_qp_12.pdf

question 14



Homework Equations


mgh=gpE
fxd=workdone



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I HAVE NO IDEA WHY MY ANSWER IS WRONG! AND THIS IS GETTING ME so WORRIED ABOUT MY CONCEPTUAL UNDERSTANDING!
I found the component down the surface which was 100N, I added 150N to this(as he has to overcome the friction) so now i just use Fxd=250x1.5=375j. But the actual answer is 750j HOW COME??
 
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The 250 N force acts along the length of the slope. 1.5 m is the height.

ehild
 


2 works done here.
1. Overheating the surface, friction.
2. Increases the PE,

Workout separately and added them.
 


ehild said:
The 250 N force acts along the length of the slope. 1.5 m is the height.

ehild
ISn't the energy we are evaluating mgh?(which is the same as Fxd). SO whenever we use gravitational potential energy, shouldn't we use the height and not the slope!
 


mutineer123 said:
I HAVE NO IDEA WHY MY ANSWER IS WRONG! AND THIS IS GETTING ME so WORRIED ABOUT MY CONCEPTUAL UNDERSTANDING!
I found the component down the surface which was 100N, I added 150N to this(as he has to overcome the friction) so now i just use Fxd=250x1.5=375j. But the actual answer is 750j HOW COME??

Since you have found the component down the surface then use the component of length of the surface.

Actually work done= FxdxCosθ
 


mutineer123 said:
ISn't the energy we are evaluating mgh?(which is the same as Fxd). SO whenever we use gravitational potential energy, shouldn't we use the height and not the slope!

The question reads: "What is the work done by the person?".It is not equal to the gravitational potential energy.

ehild
 


the persion pushes along the slope. If you know the height you can calculate the sloping distance.
I also got the total pushing force to be 250N
 
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