Solving Scalar Line Integral with Vector {\bf{u}}

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a scalar line integral involving a vector function defined in terms of Cartesian coordinates, specifically using a parametric representation of a contour. The vector function is given as {\bf{u}}(x,y) = \frac{{x{\bf{i}} + y{\bf{j}}}}{{{x^2} + {y^2}}}, with the contour defined by x = a\cos t and y = a\sin t for t ranging from 0 to 2π.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the line integral and the correct expression for the differential element d{\bf{r}}. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the variables and their parametric forms, as well as the implications of the vector's radial direction.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on expressing the integral in terms of the parameter t, while others are exploring the implications of the vector function's characteristics. There is an ongoing examination of the mathematical relationships involved, particularly concerning the simplification of x^2 + y^2.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to adhere to the parametric definitions and the specific contour described. There is also a mention of potential expectations from the instructor regarding the evaluation approach.

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I have the vector:

{\bf{u}}(x,y) = \frac{{x{\bf{i}} + y{\bf{j}}}}{{{x^2} + {y^2}}}

Where:

x = a\cos t y = a\sin t

I know I need to use the equation

\int\limits_0^{2\pi } {{\bf{u}} \cdot d{\bf{r}}}

And the answer is

\int\limits_0^{2\pi } {} ((a\cos t/{a^2})( - a\sin t) + (a\sin t/{a^2})(a\cos t)dt = 0

The trouble I have is finding that {d{\bf{r}}} How is that done? Can someone help?
 
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Start by actually stating the question correctly.

For the given vector function {\bf u}(x,y), evaluate the line integral,

I = ~_\mathbb{C} \!\!\! \int {\bf u} \cdot d {\bf r}

Where \mathbb{C} is a contour given parametrically by {x = a\cos t, y = a\sin t : t = 0 \ldots 2\pi}.
 
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d {\bf r} is the vector differential <dx, dy>. So, using nothing but the definition of the dot product, the integral can be expanded as:

I = ~_\mathbb{C} \!\!\! \int u_x(x,y) \, dx + u_y(x,y) dy \,

At this point it is still a line integral over a specified contour, but we can use the parametric equations of the contour to express it as a "normal" integral over 0 to 2 pi. That is:

I = \int_0^{2 \pi} \left( u_x(t) \frac{dx}{dt} + u_y(t) \frac{dy}{dt} \right) \, dt

Does that help?
 
BTW. There's one other thing that you should notice about this question. It obvious that the vector function, x{\bf \, i} + y{\bf \, j}, is radially directed, and therefore at every point is perpendicular to the given contour. So we could actually state that the integral is zero by inspection.

At this point however I'd guess that your teacher doesn't want you to do it that way. :smile:
 
Thanks uart, that helps a lot. I was thinking along those lines but couldn't make it fit. What about that

{x^2}

How does that become?

{a^2}

Thanks.
 
What "x^2" are you talking about? The only x^2 in your integral is part of x^2+ y^2. On the circle of radius a, x^2+ y^2=a^2cos^2(t)+ a^2 sin^2 t= a^2(cos^2(t)+ sin^2(t))= a^2.
 
jimmy42 said:
{x^2}

How does that become?

{a^2}

It doesn't. However, x^2 + y^2 does become a^2. That's a simple trig identity, can you see it?
 
Did you find dr yet? Did you take the dot product?
 
Yes thanks uart, I see how it's all working now.
 

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