Solving Simple System of Equations: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion focuses on solving a system of equations involving exponential terms: 2x + 2y = 10 and (2x)² + (2y)² = 68. Participants suggest rewriting the equations using substitutions, such as letting a = 2^x and b = 2^y, which simplifies the problem to a + b = 10 and a² + b² = 68. By squaring the first equation, they derive a simpler system that allows for solving a quadratic equation to find values for a and b. The discussion highlights that there are multiple symmetrical solutions for x and y, emphasizing the nature of the equations.
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Homework Statement



2x + 2y = 10

(2x)2 + (2y)2 = 68

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



If I divide them, I'm right back where I started to:

2x+ 2y = 6.8

I can't subtract or substitute either because that turns into a mess. Thanks for any help.
 
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Try solving for 2^x in the top expression then insert that in the bottom expression and expand. Then solve the quadratic replacing 2^y with z (or whatever) and then find the appropriate result.
 
DrummingAtom said:

Homework Statement



2x + 2y = 10

(2x)2 + (2y)2 = 68

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



If I divide them, I'm right back where I started to:

2x+ 2y = 6.8

I can't subtract or substitute either because that turns into a mess. Thanks for any help.
I can see that 68/10 = 6.8. Are you thinking that
\frac{(2^x)^2 + (2^y)^2}{2^x + 2^y} = 2^x + 2^y \text{?}

That's not true at all. That's like saying that (3 + 8)/(1 + 4) = 3 + 2 = 5. The true value of the expression on the left is 11/5 = 2.2.
 
DrummingAtom said:

Homework Statement



2x + 2y = 10

(2x)2 + (2y)2 = 68

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



If I divide them, I'm right back where I started to:

2x+ 2y = 6.8

I can't subtract or substitute either because that turns into a mess. Thanks for any help.

Write a = 2^x and b = 2^y, so your equations become a + b = 10 and a^2 + b^2 = 68. Note that if we square both sides of the first equation we get 100 = (a+b)^2, and we can write this as 100 = a^2 + b^2 + 2*a*b. Since we already know a^2 + b^2 from the second equation, we can get a*b. So now we have a simpler system in which we know a + b and a*b. From these, we can get 'a' by solving a quadratic equation, although you need to worry about which of the two quadratic roots you should use. Once you have 'a' you can get 'b', and then you can get x and y from those.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
...although you need to worry about which of the two quadratic roots you should use. Once you have 'a' you can get 'b', and then you can get x and y from those.

Little note: there is not a single solution to these equations (when I worked it, I got two symmetrical solutions). So both roots should be valid. (multiple solutions make sense since y and x are equally weighted in both systems)
 
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