Solving the Entropy Puzzle: Blundell and Blundell Q&A

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The discussion revolves around solving a question from Blundell and Blundell regarding entropy and temperature changes in van der Waals (VDW) gases during different processes. Participants clarify that in free expansion into a vacuum, the work done by the gas and heat exchanged are both zero, leading to a decrease in temperature. The change in internal energy is expressed as ΔU=0, and the relationship between temperature change and volume is analyzed. It is emphasized that the change in entropy is not the same for the VDW gas in isothermal expansion versus expansion into a vacuum, as the latter results in cooling. The conversation highlights the importance of considering both volume and temperature changes when calculating entropy.
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Hello,

This is a question I've been working on out of blundell and blundell,

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/3342/entwopy.jpg

The red box is my answers to the question which I am pretty sure are ok.

I am having trouble with the very last part of the question.

By the logic of the first part, the entropy would be the same with the VDW gas in both cases right (cases a and b)? Since entropy is a state variable.

But how can you find the change in temperature?

Thank you
 
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You know that ΔU=Q+W. If it is free expansion into vacuum, what is the heat exchanged and the work done by the gas during the process?

ehild
 


Ah right,

The work done by the gas will be zero and there will be no heat exchanged (assuming the enclosure is insulated).

So

ΔU=0=(3/2)nRΔT-n2a/αV + n2a/V


(3/2)RΔT=na/αV -n2a/V =na(1/α-1)/V

(3/2)RΔT=-na(-1/α+1)/V = -na(-1/α+1)/V=-na(α-1)/αV

So ΔT<0 i.e. decreases by an amount proportional to (α-1)/α

Thanks!
 


Revise the change of entropy, too, as not only the volume but also the temperature changes.

ehild
 


Oh, did you suggest that because there is a mistake in the working I posted in the picture and the second post, or do you mean in general?
 


You said the change of entropy would be the same for the van der Waals gas in both processes a and b (isotherm expansion and expansion into vacuum) as the gas arrives to the same state. It is not true for the VDW gas as it cools down in process b.

ehild
 


Oh sorry,

Thanks again for all your help!
 
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