Solving the Synchronized Oscillation of Two Pendulums

  • Thread starter Thread starter idkgirl
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Oscillation
AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating when two pendulums with different lengths and periods will reach the same position simultaneously after being released from rest. The periods of the pendulums are calculated as 1.8558 seconds for the shorter pendulum and 4.6398 seconds for the longer one. Participants suggest finding the least common multiple of the two periods to determine when they coincide. One user explores multiplying the periods by whole numbers to avoid fractional cycles, indicating a need for whole number solutions. The focus remains on the mathematical relationship between the pendulums' oscillation periods to solve the problem effectively.
idkgirl
Messages
7
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Consider the two “gigantic” simple pendulums with identical masses but with different lengths
as shown below. Suppose they are released from rest from position A at the same time as
shown. So you understand that they will not oscillate in harmony since they will have different
periods of oscillation. But at a later time we will see both pendulums reaching the position A
simultaneously. When will it take place? (calculate the time taken from the start). Take
g=980 cm/s2 . Must show all the calculations.



Homework Equations




T = 2pi * square root of length/gravity


The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't know what I am doing. I don't know how to relate two different periods. =(
 
Physics news on Phys.org


idkgirl said:

Homework Statement



Consider the two “gigantic” simple pendulums with identical masses but with different lengths
as shown below. Suppose they are released from rest from position A at the same time as
shown. So you understand that they will not oscillate in harmony since they will have different
periods of oscillation. But at a later time we will see both pendulums reaching the position A
simultaneously. When will it take place? (calculate the time taken from the start). Take
g=980 cm/s2 . Must show all the calculations.



Homework Equations




T = 2pi * square root of length/gravity


The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't know what I am doing. I don't know how to relate two different periods. =(

Welcome to the PF.

So what are the two different periods?
 


the periods are 1.8558 (the one with a length of 85.5) and 4.6398 (the one with a length of 534.4).

I think what I should do is 4.6398/1.8558 and then multiply the periods by a common multiplier, correct?
 


idkgirl said:
the periods are 1.8558 (the one with a length of 85.5) and 4.6398 (the one with a length of 534.4).

I think what I should do is 4.6398/1.8558 and then multiply the periods by a common multiplier, correct?

You are on the right track -- you need to find the least common multiple to find when the are coincident in position again...
 


Oh cool! Thanks so much. I multiplied 1.8558 by 5 and the other number by 2 to get 9.28. I mean, I could multiply the one with 1.8558 by 2.5 to get 4.6398 secs, since by the time the longer pendulum swings the short one will have completed 2.5 cycles. but maybe the problem with that is that you can't have .5 of cycle ...so yeah. ...that is why I am multiplying it by whole numbers, right?
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top