Solving Unintuitive Homework: An Example of C ≠ f^(-1)(f(c))

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The discussion centers on the mathematical concept of proving that C ≠ f^(-1)(f(c)) using specific examples. Participants explore the implications of functions and their inverses, particularly in cases where multiple elements in set A map to the same element in set B, such as A = {a, b} where f(a) = f(b) = d. The conversation highlights the necessity of understanding the relationship between a function and its inverse, especially when differentiability is not a factor in the proof.

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I don't know how to start a proof for this. Intuitively I would think think that C = f^(-1)(f(c)), which would imply that C is a subset of f^(-1)(f(c)), however that is not the case and the problem asks for an example when that is not true. Does this mean that f(C) sends all elements c of C from A to B and that f^(-1) sends all elements c of C from B to A?
 
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its good to start with small discrete sets and see if you can find a good example

how about considering A = {a,b} both mapped to the same point f(a) = f(b) = d
 
Thanks I kind of figured it out. One questions would a differentiable map be considered an example where if you have f(a) = d then then f^(-1)(f(a)) wouldn't necessarily equal a?
 
I'm not sure why you would need to consider differntiability? You;re just looking at maps between sets

the example I gave in post #2 should be sufficient...
 

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