Engineering Solving unkown impedance in circuit

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The discussion revolves around solving for an unknown impedance in a circuit using the equation V=IZ. The user attempts to find the current through a 1-ohm resistor and uses KCL to calculate the current through the unknown impedance Z. They express confusion over their calculations, particularly regarding the signs in KCL and the angle of the impedance. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying current directions and quadrant placement for complex numbers. Ultimately, the user acknowledges the need for a fresh perspective on the problem due to fatigue.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


V=IZ

The Attempt at a Solution


So my plan is as follows:
Find the current through the 1 ohm resistor, multiplying this by the combined impedance of the capacitor & 1 ohm resistor. Now I know the voltage across the unkown impedance Z. Subtract this voltage from the 12 V source, now I know the voltage through the 9 ohm resistor. Use KCL to find the current through Z, and use V=IZ to find the unknown impedance.

Current through 1 ohm resistor: 4(45d)
Voltage through 1 ohm resistor & capacitor: 4(45d)(1-j1)=5.66(0d)
Voltage through 9 ohm resistor: 12(0d)-5.66(0d) = 6.34(0d)
Current through 9 ohm resistor: 6.34(0d)/9 = 0.7044(0d)

By KCL:
-Ic + Iz + Io = 0
Iz = Ic - Io = 0.7044(0d) - 4(45d) = 3.54(53d)

V/Iz = 5.66(0d)/3.54(53d) = 1.6(-53d) = 0.963-1.278j

But this is wrong, and I've been trying to figure this out for a good hour now, but keep getting the same answer. So I conclude that there's something wrong with my approach.
 
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I think you want to check your KCL. There is one current flowing into the node and two flowing out. Which is which?
 
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gneill said:
I think you want to check your KCL. There is one current flowing into the node and two flowing out. Which is which?

Yes. My sign convention is (-) for in, (+) for out. Iz is the current across Z, Io is the current through the resistor/capacitor, Ic is the current through the 9 ohm resistor.
 
The angle of your Iz looks suspicious. What was your rectangular version?
 
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gneill said:
The angle of your Iz looks suspicious. What was your rectangular version?

0.7044 - 2sqrt(2) - 2sqrt(2)j
-2.124-2.823j
3.537(53d)
 
x86 said:
0.7044 - 2sqrt(2) - 2sqrt(2)j
-2.124-2.823j
3.537(53d)
Yeah, both terms are negative. In what quadrant should the resulting angle lie?
 
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gneill said:
Yeah, both terms are negative. In what quadrant should the resulting angle lie?

The quadrant where x<0 and y<0, so this means that the answer is 3.537(-53d)

Even so, this doesn't change the real answer, it is still 0.963

But the complex part is correct. Perhaps I'll redo this problem tomorrow when I'm more awake. I really need to focus on the little things more!

Thanks
 
x86 said:
The quadrant where x<0 and y<0, so this means that the answer is 3.537(-53d)
-53° is in the 4th quadrant where x > 0...
 
gneill said:
-53° is in the 4th quadrant where x > 0...

Yes you are right. Sorry about that, I was up very late last night and havent' slept well lately.
 

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