Solving Vector Subspace Questions: A & B in V

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The problem involves determining whether the intersection and union of two vector subspaces A and B of a vector space V are themselves vector subspaces. The original poster outlines a strategy to find counterexamples to support their claims regarding the union and intersection.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster suggests finding specific subspaces in V to demonstrate that the union is not a subspace, while also considering the intersection. Other participants propose testing closure properties for both the union and intersection to evaluate their subspace status.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different strategies to address the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to check closure properties, and there is a focus on the implications of finding counterexamples.

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Participants are discussing the definitions and properties of vector subspaces, particularly in relation to the intersection and union of subspaces. There is an emphasis on the necessity of proving or disproving the subspace status through examples or counterexamples.

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Hey guys this is the question

. Let A and B be vector subspaces of a vector space V .
The intersection of A and B, A ∩ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A and x ∈ B}.
The union of A and B, A ∪ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A or x ∈ B}.
a) Determine whether or not A ∩ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.
b) Determine whether or not A ∪ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.


My strategy for this is to find two subspaces in V and find a counter claim so that the union of A and B is not a subspace and similarly for the intersection of A and B would this be strategy be enough to answer the question?

thanks so much.
 
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for the union pick arbitrary elements a in A, b in B, is a+b in A U B?
 
for int pick arbitrary elements in A int B, and test the subspace closure requirements
 
flon said:
Hey guys this is the question

. Let A and B be vector subspaces of a vector space V .
The intersection of A and B, A ∩ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A and x ∈ B}.
The union of A and B, A ∪ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A or x ∈ B}.
a) Determine whether or not A ∩ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.
b) Determine whether or not A ∪ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.


My strategy for this is to find two subspaces in V and find a counter claim so that the union of A and B is not a subspace and similarly for the intersection of A and B would this be strategy be enough to answer the question?

thanks so much.
It would be sufficient if they are both not subspaces. But are you sure of that?
 
sorry if the intersection and union are both NOT subspaces?
 
yeah, you'll only find a counter example if they are not a subspace
 

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