Special Relativity: Find speed of 3rd object.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of Ship B, which has a rest length twice that of Ship A, while Ship A travels at 0.5c. The observer measures both ships to have the same length, leading to the conclusion that Ship B must be traveling at 0.9c. The participant struggles with the equations of special relativity, particularly the concepts of length contraction and the gamma factor. They initially misapply the relationships between the lengths and the gamma factors but receive clarification on the correct approach. Ultimately, the participant expresses gratitude for the assistance in resolving their confusion.
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Homework Statement


Rest length of Ship B is twice that of Ship A.
Ship A travels at 0.5c relative to a "fixed" observer.
Ship B travels at such a speed that the same "fixed" observer measures Length B = Length A.
How fast is Ship B traveling?

2. Homework Equations [/B]
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The Attempt at a Solution


I have no experience with Latex, so pardon my clumsy equations.
I know that the answer is that Ship B travels at 0.9c. But when I go through the math, I get things wrong.
1) BetaA=0.5
2) LA = gammaA * L0A (Length A = gammaA * Rest length A)
3) LB = gammaB * L0B.

But
4) L0B=2 * L0A (rest length B = twice that of A)
5) LB = LA (length B is measured to be same as that of A)


6) So LB = LA = gammaB * (2 * L0A)

Combining eqns 2) and 6), I get
gammaA = 2 * gammaB.

But is should be gammaA = 0.5 * gammaB.

I'm clearly making a bad conceptual mistake. Can you point it out to me?[/B]
 
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Ken Miller said:

Homework Statement


Rest length of Ship B is twice that of Ship A.
Ship A travels at 0.5c relative to a "fixed" observer.
Ship B travels at such a speed that the same "fixed" observer measures Length B = Length A.
How fast is Ship B traveling?

2. Homework Equations [/B]
All given in statement

The Attempt at a Solution


I have no experience with Latex, so pardon my clumsy equations.
I know that the answer is that Ship B travels at 0.9c. But when I go through the math, I get things wrong.
1) BetaA=0.5
2) LA = gammaA * L0A (Length A = gammaA * Rest length A)
3) LB = gammaB * L0B.
[/B]

Watch out, it is the other way around (recall, length *contraction*) so LB=LOB /gammaB and LA=L0A/gammaA

 
Oh, my goodness, of course. Blush! :)
Thank you for getting me out of my rut!
 
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