Spectrometer setup to minimize absorption of reflected light

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The discussion centers on optimizing a spectrometer setup to effectively measure the quenching of an oxygen-sensitive dye, where blue excitation light overlaps with red fluorescence, complicating data collection. Suggestions include using polarizing films to differentiate between the blue and red emissions, although concerns about the effectiveness of filters in distinguishing overlapping spectra are raised. One participant recommends recording the spectrum of the reflected blue light and digitally subtracting it from the overall spectrum to isolate the red emission. The user confirms they are using an Ocean Optics Jaz spectrometer and expresses a desire to achieve accurate data for a Stern-Volmer plot with their current setup. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the challenge of minimizing blue light interference while capturing red fluorescence effectively.
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I'm working on an experiment to measure the quenching of an oxygen-sensitive dye. The excitation light is blue and the light fluoresced is red. When I collect data, there is always a peak for blue and red, which makes it impossible to measure really the quenching in low dye concentrations because the blue overlaps the small red emission. I'm thinking of using a polarizing film, but don't know the best setup.

Below is the current setup:

[film w/ dye] — |glass wall| — spectrometer & blue light source

Can you guys tell me how to minimize the pickup of blue light without affecting red light pickup?
 
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I use filters to reject unwanted parts of the spectrum when I do astrophotography. Do you not have any filters?
 
a filter wouldn't help because I am concerned with the overlap of reflected and fluoresced light, and a filter wouldn't be able to distinguish between them
 
If the spectrum of the blue peak is overlapping the spectrum of the red peak, then I don't think you can do much with filters. There are edge pass filters that can block a desired part of the spectrum. Are you using a commercial spectrometer?

It might be worth checking if the blue peak and red peak have different polarizations; then you could use polarizers to filter the desired spectrum out.
 
caa4444 said:
a filter wouldn't help because I am concerned with the overlap of reflected and fluoresced light, and a filter wouldn't be able to distinguish between them

Ah ok I see the issue now. Well, I can't help with the setup, but have you considered recording the spectrum of the reflected blue light and digitally subtracting it from the spectrum of the whole experiment? I do something similar in astrophotography to get dark current and electronic bias removed from my images. I'm assuming that you are using a CCD or something similar to record the spectrum, is that correct?
 
yes. I am using the oceanoptics jaz
 
caa4444 said:
yes. I am using the oceanoptics jaz

Well, you could try the method I suggested. I'm not sure if a polarizer would filter the reflected light out or just reduce both the reflected and emitted light.
 
^i'd do that if I could, but I can't reliably get just the blue light because i'd have to move the spectrometer and that changes the intensity.

I'm just trying to get data for a stern-volmer plot, so if there's a way to do that with just this setup, that'd be great
 
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