Speed of sound on a moving train

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Two trains, A and B, are moving in the same direction at speeds of 20 m/s and 30 m/s, respectively, with train B ahead of A. When train A's whistle is blown, the speed of sound in air is 340 m/s, but the perceived speed of the sound varies for passengers on each train due to their relative motion. For passengers in train A, the speed of the sound is calculated to be 360 m/s, while for passengers in train B, it is 310 m/s. The confusion arises from misunderstanding that the speed of sound remains constant for both groups, but the speed of the sound from the whistle changes based on the trains' relative speeds. This highlights the importance of considering relative motion when analyzing sound propagation in moving frames.
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Homework Statement



Two trains A and B are moving with speed 20m/s and 30m/s respectively in the same direction on the same straight track with B ahead of A. The engines are at the front ends. The engine of trains A blows a long whistle.

Assume that the speed of sound of whistle is composed of components varying in frequency from f1=800Hz to f2=1120 Hz as shown in the figure. The spread in the frequency (ie, highest frequency - lowest frequency) is thus 320 Hz. The speed of sound in air is 340m/s.

Find the speed of the whistle for passengers in A and passengers in B


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The Attempt at a Solution



Relative velocity between A and B=10m/s. So speed of sound for passengers in B would be 10m/s less than 340m/s i.e, 330m/s and for people in A the speed of sound would be 340m/s.
But my answer is wrong. The answer is 360m/s for people in A and 310m/s for people in B. I could not think of a possible explanation. Can anyone help?
 
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Since the trains are pulling apart, the separation speed ADDS to the speed of sound from the reference point of the passenger on the train (B) that did not blow its whistle. Why did you think it would subtract?

Your statement that "speed of sound for passengers in B would be ... " is incorrect. The speed of sound is the same for both sets of passengers. What is not the same is the speed of the THE sound FROM THAT WHISTLE. Maybe that's how you are confusing yourself.
 
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