Spinning top's moment of inertia I (disc on shaft )

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a spinning top, specifically a flat circular disc on an inclined shaft. The user initially attempted to use spherical coordinates but found it overly complicated. They acknowledge that the moment of inertia for a disc is equivalent to that of a cylinder but struggle with describing the rotation of the disc at an angle alpha. The conversation suggests simplifying the approach and focusing on the fundamental definitions rather than complex coordinate systems. Ultimately, the user expresses gratitude for the guidance received.
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Homework Statement
Finding the moment of inertia for an Spinning top
Relevant Equations
L = r x F
I hope you guys can help me with this problem..

A top in the form of a flat, circular disc spins on a shaft that is inclined at an angle alpha to the vertical.
Now I have to find the moment of inertia I for the disc about its centre on the shaft.

My attempt was building I with spherical coordinates (r= length of the shaft, phi= \omega t , theta= angle to the vertical) But I think that's just the Point the vector r is pointing to the center of the disc ? :rolleyes:

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How about you start with the definition of moment of inertia? (Assuming you need to calculate it from first principles rather than just looking it up.)
 
yeah I did it before but my problem is that I don't know how to describe the x y and z values to put them in the moment of inertia
I used the definition below for I and put in the spherical coordinates
 

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Doc Al said:
Way too complicated! The moment of inertia of a disk is the same as that for a cylinder. See: Moment of Inertia: Thin Disk
thank you !
I know that the moment of inertia of a disc is the moment of inertia as a cylinder but how do i discribe the rotation of the disc when it spins on a shaft at an angle alpha?
The shaft of the spinning top would rotate on the coat of a cone i guess...
 
lena_2509 said:
but how do i discribe the rotation of the disc when it spins on a shaft at an angle alpha?
I'm not sure how detailed you need to be. Note that in part c they just refer to the direction the top is spinning as ##\hat r##.
 
Doc Al said:
I'm not sure how detailed you need to be. Note that in part c they just refer to the direction the top is spinning as ##\hat r##.
okay thank you ! maybe I thought too complicated ... thanks a lot !
 
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