Spring/block on horizontal plane SHM

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The discussion focuses on solving two problems related to simple harmonic motion (SHM) involving a spring. For the first problem, the participant is unsure about using a negative time value derived from the inverse tangent function to calculate velocity and acceleration, but others confirm that it is acceptable. The second problem raises confusion about finding the minimum displacement between points where kinetic energy and acceleration are at half their maximum values. Participants suggest that while there are infinite points meeting the conditions, the goal is to determine the minimum proximity between these points, which can be approached without differentiation. Overall, the discussion emphasizes understanding SHM equations and the interpretation of the problems posed.
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Homework Statement


1. Find the speed and acceleration when the kinetic energy is equal to half the potential energy
2. Find the minimum displacement between the points where the kinetic energy and acceleration are at half their maximum values

Homework Equations


mv^2=.5kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


My correct harmonic equations

x(t)=(√2/10)cos(10t+5∏/4)
v(t)=-(√2)sin(10t+5∏/4)
a(t)=-(10*√2)cos(10t+5∏/4)

Got down to for part 1:
arctan(√(1/2))=10t+5∏/4

All I want to know is if its acceptable to use the negative time value that comes from not shifting the output of the inverse tangent, to plug in for velocity and acceleration. Personally I don't see why not.

And for part 2...what the bloody heck are they asking? I suppose I could find the displacements for each of those points and see when they get closest...I don't understand the goal of such a method though.

If you want to see the whole problem I have attached it. Thank you for any help.
 

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for 1, seems fine to me.
For 2, yes, there will be an infinite set of points at which these conditions arise, but there'll be a minimum proximity. Probably something like pi*n*apha+beta and pi*n*alpha+gamma, and you just have to figure out how close such points can get.
 
So is there some way to set up an equation for those displacements, and use a derivative set to zero to find a minimum? Thats the idea I am having right meow anyways
 
physninj said:
So is there some way to set up an equation for those displacements, and use a derivative set to zero to find a minimum? Thats the idea I am having right meow anyways

No, you won't use differentiation. It's not minimum in a continuous function. It'll be like sin x = .5; x = π/6, 5π/6, 13π/6, ... Smallest difference = 4π/6.
 
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