Spring Compression at kinetic energy = 0

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block on an inclined plane compressing a spring. The block, with a mass of 2.51 kg, is projected downwards towards a spring with a force constant of 460 N/m. The key equations used include kinetic energy and elastic potential energy, leading to the realization that both gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy must be considered in the energy conservation equation. The correct approach involves calculating the vertical distance traveled by the mass, incorporating both the distance to the spring and the compression of the spring itself. Ultimately, the energies convert into the stored elastic energy of the spring when the block comes to rest.
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Homework Statement


An inclined plane of angle θ = 20.0° has a spring of force constant k = 460 N/m fastened securely at the bottom so that the spring is parallel to the surface as shown in the figure below. A block of mass m = 2.51 kg is placed on the plane at a distance d = 0.324 m from the spring. From this position, the block is projected downward toward the spring with speed v = 0.750 m/s. By what distance is the spring compressed when the block momentarily comes to rest?

Homework Equations


K = 1/2 mv^2
Elastic Potential energy of spring = 1/2 kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


So first I found the acceleration of the object:
gsin(θ) = a

Then I found the velocity of the mass at the time it hits the spring
d = vt +1/2 at^2
t is about .269593
so velocity when the object hits the spring = v+at which is about 1.654

Then I had: 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
solving for x, I got about 0.122 meters
However, the website to send the answer says I'm wrong. I have looked this up online, and I have substituted my values into other peoples equations and I still get 0.122
Thanks in advance!
 
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Think of the change of gravitational potential energy while the spring is being compressed.

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Consider the involved energies - kinetic and potential energy of the block and the energy stored in the compressed spring.
 
Okay so gravitational potential energy is mgy. Would y just be the distance of the object to the spring, or would it be the distance plus x (the distance the spring compressed). So either:
mg(d+x) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
or
mg(d) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
 
Abid Rizvi said:
Okay so gravitational potential energy is mgy. Would y just be the distance of the object to the spring, or would it be the distance plus x (the distance the spring compressed). So either:
mg(d+x) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
or
mg(d) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2
Neither. It is the vertical distance the mass travels from initial to final position (maximum compression in this case).
 
Um, but isn't d+x the initial position to the position of maximum compression?
 
Okay I got it!
mg*sin(theta) * (d+x) + 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2 works.
Thank you guys for all of your help!
 
That's correct, yes.
The gravitational potential energy and the kinetic energy at the top
is converted to the stored elastic enregy of the spring when the block
comes momentarily to rest at the bottom.
 
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