Standard Temp and Pressure -- old values (pre-1982) still prevalent

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the persistence of older values for Standard Temperature and Pressure (STP), specifically the use of 273.15K and 760 torr, despite the introduction of new criteria. Participants explore the implications of this lag in adoption within scientific and industrial contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes surprise at the continued use of the old STP values and questions the slow adoption of new standards by scientists and webmasters.
  • Another participant references an article that highlights the prevalence of old standards in industry compared to pure and applied chemistry.
  • A participant expresses a personal opinion that scientists are generally slow to adapt to new standards, citing practical reasons related to the reevaluation of established theories and experiments.
  • One participant provides a link to an STP calculator that accommodates multiple standards, suggesting a practical tool for users.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reasons behind the slow adoption of new standards, with some agreeing on the challenges of changing established practices while others focus on the implications of this lag. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the necessity and practicality of updating standards.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the necessity of changing standards and the implications of doing so on historical theories and practices.

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Okay, my topic doesn't really ask a question but it is surprising to me that the old criteria of 273.15K and 760 torr are still being reported as the standard and very few websites have the "new" criteria of 750.06 torr.
Are scientists, webmasters, etc. usually this slow at adopting changes? (Well, it has "only" been 35 years.)
 
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Thanks for the quick replies. Still, you would think that after 35 years, there would be some kind of cooperation.
 
Well in my personal opinion, yes scientists are slow to adapt to new standards, but there is a practical reason to it. Since science develops above fundamental theories and experiments that people few decades or even centuries ago developed. To change a standard is sometimes extremely difficult since all of these previous theories and experiments needs to be reevaluated. I don't think, for practical reason, quickly changing standards is a good idea unless it is really really necessary.

For example, electric current flows from + to -, but electrons are actually moving the opposite way. It is going to be quite a pain to revise this, especially considering the long history of electrochemistry.
 
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