STAR: Comparing Ionization and Thermal Energy in the Sun

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To determine the energy required to ionize all the hydrogen in the Sun, one must calculate the total number of hydrogen atoms and multiply it by the ionization energy of a single hydrogen atom, which is 2.18e−18 J. The calculations suggest that the total ionization energy amounts to approximately 2.59*10^9 J, while the thermal energy of the Sun is estimated at 1.47*10^8 J. This indicates that the Sun does not possess sufficient energy to ionize all its hydrogen. The Sun is primarily composed of about 91% hydrogen, making the assumption of it being entirely hydrogen fairly reasonable. Accurate calculations can be further refined by using specific mass figures for hydrogen in the Sun.
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Question says:
Approximately how much energy would be required to ionize all the
hydrogen in the Sun? How does this ionization energy compare with
the thermal energy of the Sun?
(Assume the uniform density approximation. The ionization energy of
a single hydrogen atom is 2.18e−18 J.)

Am I to calculate the number of hydrogen atoms in the sun, and multiply by the ionization energy of a single atom? If so do you think its a decent assumption to say that the Sun is entirely made from hydrogen?

If so I get the ionization energy to be 2.59*10^3^9 J and the thermal energy to be 1.47*10^3^8 J, so there isn't enough energy in the sun to ionise all its hydrogen
 
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If we consider the number of atoms, the sun is composed of about 91% hydrogen and the rest is mostly helium, so I would guess that it is a fair assumption.
Brewer said:
Am I to calculate the number of hydrogen atoms in the sun, and multiply by the ionization energy of a single atom? If so do you think its a decent assumption to say that the Sun is entirely made from hydrogen?

Sounds good to me.

~H
 
Yippee! Intuition worked for once!
 
Brewer said:
Yippee! Intuition worked for once!

Lmao. However, if you wish to be more accurate you could use the figures here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun to calculate actaully how much hydrogen is in the sun by mass then calculate the number of atoms and hence the ionisation enthalpy... :biggrin:

~H
 
Brewer said:
If so I get the ionization energy to be 2.59*10^3^9 J and the thermal energy to be 1.47*10^3^8 J, so there isn't enough energy in the sun to ionise all its hydrogen
How do you get this value for the thermal energy?

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