State Taxpayer-Funded Education: Finding the Facts Quickly

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The discussion centers on understanding how much of the cost of attending a state school is covered by taxpayers. Participants suggest that public universities typically provide budget or audit reports that detail expenses and revenues, including tuition and donations. A key distinction is made between capital funding, which comes from high-profile donations for building projects, and operating funding, which covers everyday expenses like salaries and maintenance. The conversation highlights that in Canada, provincial governments contribute significantly more to operating costs compared to student tuition, whereas in the U.S., this ratio has shifted. A user shares a financial report link and inquires about specific terms like "nonoperational revenue" and "appropriations," which are clarified as state funding and specific-purpose grants, respectively. The importance of understanding these financial documents is emphasized, noting that while some universities may show a surplus, capital expenditures and maintenance costs can quickly accumulate.
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Hello all. I go to a state school and would like to know how much of the actual cost has been paid for by the state taxpayers.

Is there a way to find this out without tracing tons of government documents?
 
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Compare it to your out of state tuition perhaps?
 
Being a public institution, you should be able to find the budget or an audit report for your university. This should have (projected in the case of the budget) expense and revenues, including tuition, donations, hotdog sales, etc.

Now here's the tricky part: if your university is like mine, there are some high-profile donors that give not-inconsiderable donations. However, their dollars go into capital funding (for new buildings, new extensions, statues, etc.) rather than operating funding (salaries, maintenance, photocopying, utilities, etc.) And you can't borrow from Carl to pay Ollie (capital for operating). And sometimes their dollars force an increase in operating funding from general revenues because you suddenly have new buildings to take care of.

So keep that distinction (capital vs. operating vs. sometimes research) in mind when you're reading through the document, and that you're looking at two or three separate budgets that just happen to be reported simultaneously in the same place.

I'm given to understand that for every undergrad dollar that comes in for operating costs, us Canadians have the provincial government chipping in $3 to $10. For you Americans, the ratio used to be the same, but is now flipped around (again, from what I understand).
 
MATLABdude said:
Being a public institution, you should be able to find the budget or an audit report for your university. This should have (projected in the case of the budget) expense and revenues, including tuition, donations, hotdog sales, etc.

Thanks! With this information, I found our report. It is here: http://www.stcloudstate.edu/adminaffairs/documents/FinalSCSUfinancialstatementsFy10.pdf

Page 20 lists state and federal grants as "nonoperational revenue". Are these the numbers I am looking for? Also, what are "appropriations"?
 
KingNothing said:
Thanks! With this information, I found our report. It is here: http://www.stcloudstate.edu/adminaffairs/documents/FinalSCSUfinancialstatementsFy10.pdf

Page 20 lists state and federal grants as "nonoperational revenue". Are these the numbers I am looking for? Also, what are "appropriations"?

That's probably the money you're looking for: it's not student tuition, fees, restricted payments (which I'd guess are either faculty- or program-specific tuition) or the ever-popular 'other'. Appropriations would probably be state appropriations (from the state budget) for the university. That differs from grants which are usually for very specific purposes (probably research).

These sorts of documents are usually quite illuminating. Interesting that you guys actually had a surplus (more with depreciation) but those capital expenditures and "deferred maintenance" have a nasty habit of piling up awfully quickly.
 
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