# Static structure - find a fourth relation

Moara
Homework Statement:
As shown in the figure, we are given a static structure with articulated supports A and B. C is a point articulated too. We are asked to find the reaction forces and moments in A and B.
Relevant Equations:
##F_r = ma##, ##M_r = I\alpha##

First, since A and B are articulated, the moments due to A and B are zero. Now, we may call reaction forces in A, ##V_A## and ##H_A## and in the same way, call the reactions in B as ##V_B## and ##H_B##. With that and Newton's third law, I managed to find three equations (equilibrium of translation in the vertical and in the horizontal plus the rotation equilibrium), but, still, I need one more equation or argument to completely find the four forces.

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You can remove one support at a time and calculate the forces that are needed to keep the structure from rotating about the other.
It is bassicaly an ABC triangular closed structure.

Moara
Moara
I don't think I understand how am I supposed to remove one support, could you clarify, please? Meanwhile, I tried to split the structure looking only at the branch AC, can I say that in C there will be only horizontal forces, hence finding that ##V_A = 10 \ kN## ?

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plus the rotation equilibrium
There are two components that, in principle, can rotate independently, so you should have two rotation equilibrium equations.

Moara
There are two components that, in principle, can rotate independently, so you should have two rotation equilibrium equations.
with that in mind, I did the equilibrium of rotation looking to C, from bar AC, getting another equation and finding ##H_A = \frac{90}{7}##, is it correct doing that ?

Moara
with that in mind, I did the equilibrium of rotation looking to C, from bar AC, getting another equation and finding ##H_A = \frac{90}{7}##, is it correct doing that ?
It appears that I have to look AC and BC separately right

Moara
with that in mind, I did the equilibrium of rotation looking to C, from bar AC, getting another equation and finding ##H_A = \frac{90}{7}##, is it correct doing that ?
It appears that I have to look AC and BC separately right

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with that in mind, I did the equilibrium of rotation looking to C, from bar AC, getting another equation and finding ##H_A = \frac{90}{7}##, is it correct doing that ?
How do you get 90/7?

Moara
How do you get 90/7?
I probably did a mistake in my calculations

Moara
I probably did a mistake in my calculations
but I think that horizontal and vertical equilibrium plus rotation equilibrium of AC and BC around C is correct