Statically indeterminate beam problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a statically indeterminate beam problem, focusing on the deflection at points B and C. Participants are clarifying the correct approach to express displacements using superposition of separate loading cases and setting up equations for unknown reactions. There is confusion regarding the assumed deflection at B and whether it should be the difference between deflections at B and C. Numerical calculations are shared, revealing discrepancies in results and signs between participants. The conversation emphasizes the need for clearer explanations and detailed discussions of the methods used in the calculations.
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Homework Equations


Beam problem
Deflection
Statically indeterminate

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Am I correct? Or should the assumed deflection at B be the difference in deflection between B and C? Thanks
 

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It looks like you are solving this as the superposition of three separate loadings, but you don't provide enough information (text) about the separate solutions to the three loading problems. Please provide more detailed discussion, rather than just a reference to some table.
 
Sorry that i forgot to embed the reference here. The two photos are the reference i used.
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Here is the numerical calculation derived from post #1, that i thought you may not need it.
You can just take it as reference.
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Chestermiller said:
Please provide more detailed discussion,
Indeed, i have no idea with how to derive the formula from the cases in the reference. However, do you mind to tell me if my method of utilising the formulae correct?or should the assumed deflection at B be the difference in deflection between B and C? Thanks
 
What you need to do is express the displacements at B and C in the following form:

$$\delta_B=C_1W+C_2R_B+C_3R_C$$ and $$\delta_C=C_4W+C_5R_B+C_6R_C$$where the subscripted C's are obtained from the solutions to the separate problems in terms of the property- and geometric parameters. You then set ##\delta_B## and ##\delta_C## equal to zero and solve the results pair of linear algebraic equations for the two unknowns, ##R_B## and ##R_C##.
 
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Am i correct to calculate like this? Thanks
 

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Am i correct to calculate like this? Thanks
I haven't checked it over in detail (because it's hard to read a handwritten submission), but it looks like you now had the right idea.
 
sorry for unable to type all my formulae out.
I have got "δ=δW+δRB+δRC+δM" for B and C, for which each are using the formula from reference list.
thank you very much
 
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I get the following: $$\frac{R_B}{24}+5\frac{R_C}{48}=\frac{WL}{128}$$ and
$$5\frac{R_B}{48}+\frac{R_C}{3}=7\frac{WL}{(16)(24)}$$
This simplifies to:
$$R_B+\frac{5}{2}R_C=\frac{3}{16}WL$$and$$\frac{5}{2}R_B+8R_C=\frac{7}{16}WL$$

So, $$R_B=\frac{13}{56}WL$$
and $$R_C=-\frac{WL}{56}$$
 
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Well, the sign of my equations are different from yours, the answer is different...
 

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