Statistic mechanics - particles with energy 0

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The problem involves a system of weakly interacting particles in thermal equilibrium at temperature T, where each particle can occupy three energy states: -epsilon, +epsilon, and 0. The challenge is to determine the fraction of particles that have energy 0, given that there are three times as many particles in the -epsilon state as in the +epsilon state.

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  • Participants discuss the equation for the relative probability of particles occupying different energy states, referencing the role of the exponential function and temperature.
  • Some participants question the correctness of their expressions for probabilities and seek confirmation on their understanding of the relevant equations.
  • There are attempts to derive expressions for the ratios of probabilities between different energy states.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and confirming equations related to the probabilities of energy states. Some have expressed feeling stuck but have received hints that appear to help them progress in their understanding.

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Homework Statement


System of weakly interacting particles in equilibrium temperature T, each particle can exist in three energy states -epsilon, +epsilon and 0. There are three times as many particles in the -epsilon state as in the +epsilon state. Show that fraction of particles with energy 0 is sqrt(3)/(4+sqrt(3)) ?



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There's an equation that gives the relative probability, or number, of particles occupying different energy states. Should be in your textbook or class notes ... it contains the number e, as well as T and k.
 


is it along the lines of P(E_i)=e^{-E_i/kT}/(sum_j e^{-E_j/kT})

thats probably wrong but could you confirm please...
 


Yes, that's the one.
 


I'm stuck on the same question. I have the expression for the probabilities but I can't get the final expression they have. Any chance of another hint? I've been staring at this for a while and getting nowhere.
 


latentcorpse said:
P(E_i)=e^{-E_i/kT}/(sum_j e^{-E_j/kT})

Use this ↑ equation to write an expression for the ratio:

P(E=-ε) / P(E=+ε)
 


Redbelly98 said:
Use this ↑ equation to write an expression for the ratio:

P(E=-ε) / P(E=+ε)
Was stuck at this too! I get it now. Thanks!
 


Yeah, thanks for the help. I got it too.
 

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