Statistics proof, identically distributed RVs and variance

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving a formula related to the variance of the average of identically distributed random variables that have positive pairwise correlation. The original poster seeks guidance on how to approach this proof, particularly in the context of variance calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of variance for the sum of correlated random variables and attempt to derive the variance of their average. Questions arise about the appropriate formulas to use and how to manipulate them to reach the desired form.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing hints and building on each other's contributions. Some have successfully derived intermediate steps and are considering generalizing their findings to a larger number of samples.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of correlation in the variance calculations, and participants are navigating through the nuances of the formulas involved. The original poster expresses uncertainty about where to start, indicating a need for foundational clarification.

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Homework Statement


Show that for identically distributed, but not necessarily independent random variables with positive pairwise correlation ρ, the variance of their average is ρσ^2 + (1-ρ)σ^2/B.

ρ - pairwise corellation
σ^2 - variance of each variable
B - number of samples


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I'm totally stuck on this problem, I don't know where to start.
Can you give me some starting hint ?
I know that variance of the average for independent identically distributed random variables is σ^2/B
 
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Let's do this for two samples to ease the notation. Do you know how to calculate:

[tex]Var(X+Y)[/tex]

?
 
I think I could, I would start with this :
Var(X+Y) = Var(X) + Var(Y) = E[(X-μx)^2] - E[(Y-μy)^2]

where μx is the mean of RV X, and μy the mean of RV Y
 
vj3336 said:
Var(X+Y) = Var(X) + Var(Y)

This is not true! You should have a formula in your course that calculates the variance of a sum...
 
right, so when X and Y are correlated
Var(X+Y) = Var(X) + Var(Y) + 2ρ*Sqrt(Var(X))*Sqrt(Var(Y))

where ρ is corelattion coefficient between X and Y
 
OK, so what is

[tex]Var\left(\frac{X+Y}{2}\right)[/tex]

Somehow, you need to show that it equals ρσ^2 + (1-ρ)σ^2/2.
 
The best thing I could do is :
Var(1/2(X+Y))= Var(1/2*X + 1/2*Y)= 1/4σx^2 + 1/4σy^2 + 2*1/4*ρ Sqrt(σx^2)*Sqrt(σy^2)
=1/4σ^2 + 1/4σ^2 +1/2*ρ*σ^2
 
but maybe I can rearrange this to your form ...I'll try it
 
Well, can you not rewrite that a bit to form ρσ^2 + (1-ρ)σ^2/2? Or you could work out what ρσ^2 + (1-ρ)σ^2/2 is...
 
  • #10
yes, I can do it , so:

1/2σ^2 + 1/2*ρ*σ^2 = 1/2*(2ρσ^2-ρσ^2) + 1/2*σ^2 = ρσ^2 - 1/2*ρσ^2 + 1/2*σ^2
= ρσ^2 + 1/2*(σ^2-ρσ^2) = ρσ^2 + 1/2*(1-ρ)σ ^2

So the next step is to try it with n instead of 2 ?, I'll try that now
 
  • #11
Very good!

The general step should be quite analogous...
 
  • #12
The general step is then :
Var(1/n(X1+...+X2)) = 1/n*σ^2 + 2/n^2 *(1/2 * (n-1)n ) ρσ^2
= 1/n*σ^2 + (n-1)/n *ρσ^2
= ρσ^2 + 1/n*σ^2 + -1/n*ρσ^2
= ρσ^2 + 1/n*(1-ρ)σ^2
 
  • #13
Seems fine! Well done! :smile:
 
  • #14
Thanks !
Your hints where very helpful pointing me in the right direction.
 

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