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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities related to a weighted die. For part A, the correct approach involves considering all possible outcomes for a sum of 10 or greater, leading to a probability of approximately 0.38095 for rolling a pair of 5's. In part B, the goal is to determine how many times the die must be thrown for the probability of rolling a 2 to exceed 40 percent, requiring a deeper understanding of success and failure probabilities in repeated trials. The initial calculations presented were incorrect, prompting clarification on the proper methodology for both parts. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately accounting for all outcomes in probability problems.
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Homework Statement



A certain die is weighted such that probabilities of showing a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are
(6/34),
(8/34),
(5/34),
(3/34),
(8/34),
and
(4/34)

A) If two such dice are thrown, and you are told that the sum of the two is 10 or larger. What is the probability that the result was a pair of 5's?

B) How many times would you have to throw this die to have the probability of throwing a 2 exceed 40 percent?


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



A) For this the possible outcomes for a sum of 10 or greater are:

4-6
5-5
5-6
6-4
6-5
6-6

Getting rid of duplicates, since order doesn't matter there is a 1/4 chance it's double fives. I multiplied this by (8/34)(8/34) and got a probability of .01384

B) For this I used the equation

Probability = Successful outcomes/Total number of outcomes

so .4 = (8/34)/n

solving for n I get .588, which doesn't make sense.


I'm just learning statistics, so if anything I tried to do offends you mathematically, I'm very sorry!
 
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dinospamoni said:

Homework Statement



A certain die is weighted such that probabilities of showing a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 are
(6/34),
(8/34),
(5/34),
(3/34),
(8/34),
and
(4/34)

A) If two such dice are thrown, and you are told that the sum of the two is 10 or larger. What is the probability that the result was a pair of 5's?

B) How many times would you have to throw this die to have the probability of throwing a 2 exceed 40 percent?


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



A) For this the possible outcomes for a sum of 10 or greater are:

4-6
5-5
5-6
6-4
6-5
6-6

Getting rid of duplicates, since order doesn't matter there is a 1/4 chance it's double fives. I multiplied this by (8/34)(8/34) and got a probability of .01384

B) For this I used the equation

Probability = Successful outcomes/Total number of outcomes

so .4 = (8/34)/n

solving for n I get .588, which doesn't make sense.


I'm just learning statistics, so if anything I tried to do offends you mathematically, I'm very sorry!

Don't apologize; we are not offended by errors. Besides, this is a probability question, not a statistics one.

Anyway, in (a): eliminating duplicates is an error. For example, 6-4 and 4-6 both contribute equally to getting '10'. For (a) I get the answer 8/21 ≈ 0.38095.

For (b), you want to find the smallest n so that the probability of getting at least one '2' in trials 1,2,...,n is = 0.40. I'll just give a hint to get you going. Look at the experiments as having only two outcomes: S (success = get a '2') or F (failure = not a '2'). Let p = 8/34 = 4/17 be the success probability per trial and q = 1-p = 13/17 be the failure probability per trial.

What is the probability that your first S occurs in trial n? For that to happen, the first (n-1) trials must all give F. What is the probability for that to happen? The probability that the first S occurs on or before trial n is a sum of such probabilities.
 
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Would you mind explaining how you got part A? I can't figure out how you did it.
 
dinospamoni said:
Would you mind explaining how you got part A? I can't figure out how you did it.

If S is the sum we have
P\{(5,5)|S \geq 10\} = \frac{P\{(5,5)\; \&amp; \;S \geq 10 \}}{P\{S \geq 10\}} \\<br /> = \frac{P\{(5,5)\}}{ P\{S \geq 10 \}}
because {(5,5) & S ≥ 10} = {(5,5)} (since the event {(5,5)} is a subevent of {S ≥ 10}).
So, you need to compute P{S ≥ 10}.
 
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