Stoichiometry Help: C_1_2H_2_2O_1_1 + 12O_2 -> 11H_2O + 12CO_2

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The discussion revolves around the stoichiometry and thermodynamics of the combustion reaction of table sugar (sucrose), represented by the equation C12H22O11 + 12O2 → 11H2O + 12CO2. Participants are addressing specific questions related to heat production during combustion, the implications of available reactants, and the nature of enthalpy changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the reaction is written for one mole of sugar, while the question pertains to two moles, suggesting that the heat produced should be proportional to the amount of sugar burned.
  • Others argue that the original equation is correct as presented, but acknowledge a potential typo regarding the oxygen notation.
  • One participant explains that ΔH represents the heat produced per mole of the reacting substance and that it is directly proportional to the moles of reactants.
  • Another participant claims that with only 3 moles of O2, the combustion would produce less heat due to insufficient oxygen, suggesting a calculation based on the reduced amount of available reactants.
  • There is a contention regarding whether combustion can ever yield a positive ΔH, with one participant asserting that it cannot, as combustion always releases heat.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the reaction equation and the implications of the stoichiometry involved. There is no consensus on how to approach the calculations or the nature of ΔH in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need to balance the reaction correctly and clarify the meaning of ΔH, while others point out potential misunderstandings regarding the stoichiometric relationships in the combustion process.

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This is what I was given:

Answer all of the questions concerning the combustion of table sugar,
C_1_2H_2_2O_1_1(s) + 12O_2 (g)\rightarrow 11H_2O(g) + 12CO_2(g)

a. If (weird triangle shape thing(what is this thing anyways?))H for this reaction is -5645 kj/mol, how much heat is produced when 2 mol of sugar are burned?

b. How much heat is produced when only 3 mol of O_2 are available

c. Could this combustion reaction ever have a positive (weird triangle shape)H? Explain.

I am completely stuck, I have no idea even where to start on this problem, and its due tomorrow.
A million thanks to anyone who can help me!
 
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(a)
Your reaction is written (although with a mistake) for 1 moles of the sugar compound. Your question is about 2 moles of this compound. The proportion should seem obvious.

(b)
First, balance the reaction correctly. The concept will then be similar to #(a), but this time, you are basing the decision on the oxygen.
 
That is not a mistake, that's exactly how the question is written.
How is it obvious? I don't see it at all... I have never had to do a question like this before now and it makes no sense, I have absolutely no idea how I'm supposed to calculate that...
 
NekoVictoria said:
That is not a mistake, that's exactly how the question is written.

There is an obvious typo in the reaction equation.

How is it obvious? I don't see it at all... I have never had to do a question like this before now and it makes no sense, I have absolutely no idea how I'm supposed to calculate that...

So you are in one of those schools where they want you to do questions not telling first what they are about... And they don't even ask you check your textbook... Sigh.

This strange triangle thing - Δ - is called delta.

ΔH is the amount of heat produced per mole of the reacting substance.
 
I know this is probably useless but, I thought I would give it some closure since some replies were filled with snide remarks and little was done to resolve the question at hand.

First, I see nothing wrong with the equation, as far as I know, that's the combustion of sucrose and it's balanced correctly.

Either way, ΔH is directly proportional to the moles of, in this case, reactant(s). The concept will still apply if you're manipulating the moles of products. For your given ΔH, it only applies the combustion of sucrose in those specific quantities. Again, if its proportional to the moles:

A) You have twice as much sucrose now - so the combustion will produce twice as much heat: ΔH= 2(-5645 kj/mol)

B) You now have 1/4 of the oxygen you had originally - so combustion will produce only 1/4 of the heat: ΔH= (-5645 kj/mol) / 4

C) Combustion will NEVER be a positive ΔH. It's combustion, combustion always releases heat so ΔH will always be negative. Think about it; when was the last time a fire (essentially combustion) made the surroundings cold?
 
rowkem said:
First, I see nothing wrong with the equation, as far as I know, that's the combustion of sucrose and it's balanced correctly.

Equation was edited, originally it contained 12O instead of 12O2.
 

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