Stored Energy in a pressure vessel

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The discussion centers on approximating the energy lost from a pressure vessel containing compressed natural gas when a valve is released. It explores the relationship between the mass of gas released, its exit velocity, and the change in stored energy in the tank, using the equation 1/2 mv^2 for energy loss. The user questions whether this energy loss can be equated to the change in stored energy modeled as E = PV, where P is pressure and V is volume. There is a consideration of isochoric processes, noting that if the volume is fixed, the work done would be zero, leading to confusion about differentiating between stored energy and work done. The user seeks a valid approximation without delving into complex differential modeling.
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Consider a problem where a tank holds compressed natural gas, compressed to approx. 250 times atmospheric conditions.

Now release the tank valve letting some of the gas out.

Assuming a small timestep, I can approximate the energy lost as 1/2 mv^2,

where m is the mass released during the timestep, and v is the (assumed constant for small timestep) velocity of exiting gas.

Can I equate this to the change in stored energy in the tank during this timestep with reasonable accuracy?

If so, can I model the stored energy as E = PV

where P is pressure in the tank and V is the volume.

Thanks alot.
 
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I think the difference is that I was assuming an isochoric process, since a tank of fixed volume held the process. Maybe this is not the case? Either way, it should be noted that in my case I am just looking for a valid approximation, so I do not wish to model a differential problem. I have been using timesteps.

So if isochoric is assumed

Work = PdV = 0

But I am looking at stored energy, not work done, this is where I am confused.
 
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