Finding Absolute Min Value of OP + OQ with Slope m

In summary: But since we want ##m < 0## we choose ##m = -1/2##, and the minimum value of ##S(m)## is ##S(-\frac{1}{2}) = 10 + 8 \times -\frac{1}{2} + \frac{2}{-\frac{1}{2}} = 10 - 4 - 4 = 2##.In summary, the absolute minimum value of OP + OQ is 2, which occurs when the slope of the line is -1/2 and the coordinates of points P and Q are (7,0) and (0,3) respectively.
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Homework Statement

A straight line L with negative slope passes through the point (8,2) and cuts the positive coordinate axes at points P and Q. As L varies, what is the absolute minimum value of OP + OQ?

The attempt at a solution

Let x and y be two points on the line.
Using the slope point formula, we have (y-2) = m(x-8).
Writing this in intercept form, one gets x/(8 - 2/m) + y/(2 - 8m) = 1.
This implies coordinates of P and Q are (8 - 2/m, 0) and (0, 2 - 8m) respectively.

∴ OP + OQ = 10 + (-2/m - 8/m)

I can't figure out how to proceed from there. How do you find out the minimum value for the last term?
 
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RandomGuy1 said:
This implies coordinates of P and Q are (8 - 2/m, 0) and (0, 2 - 8m) respectively.

∴ OP + OQ = 10 + (-2/m - 8/m)

Actually [itex]OP + OQ = 10 - 2/m -8m[/itex] . You also need the condition [itex]m<0[/itex] bacause the slope of the line is required to be negative.

If you've learned derivatives at school, you just have to find the extremum values of [itex]OP + OQ[/itex] by solving [itex]\frac{d}{dm}\left(10-2/m-8m\right)=0[/itex] and choose the negative solution to find the correct value of m.
 
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Oh, sorry, I meant -8m. Could you please explain the last step? Why do we equate the derivative to zero?
 
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RandomGuy1 said:
Oh, sorry, I meant -8m. Could you please explain the last step? I know the derivative of -8m becomes 8. Wouldn't d/dm (-2/m) simply become -2/m2

Using the rule [itex]\frac{d}{dx}x^{n}=nx^{n-1}[/itex] with n=-1, we get [itex]\frac{d}{dm}(-2/m) =-2\frac{d}{dm}m^{-1}=-2\times(-1)\times m^{-2}=2/m^{2}[/itex]. You just had the wrong sign.

Why do we equate the derivative to zero?

If a differentiable function f(x) has an extremal (smallest or largest) value at some point a, we must have f'(a)=0.
 
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RandomGuy1 said:
Homework Statement

A straight line L with negative slope passes through the point (8,2) and cuts the positive coordinate axes at points P and Q. As L varies, what is the absolute minimum value of OP + OQ?

The attempt at a solution

Let x and y be two points on the line.
Using the slope point formula, we have (y-2) = m(x-8).
Writing this in intercept form, one gets x/(8 - 2/m) + y/(2 - 8m) = 1.
This implies coordinates of P and Q are (8 - 2/m, 0) and (0, 2 - 8m) respectively.

∴ OP + OQ = 10 + (-2/m - 8/m)

I can't figure out how to proceed from there. How do you find out the minimum value for the last term?

If we let the slope be ##-m## we have ##y-2 = -m(x-8)##, with ##m > 0##. We have
[tex] \text{OP} + \text{OQ} = 10 + 8m + \frac{2}{m} \equiv S(m).[/tex] We want to minimize ##S(m)##, so we need to minimize ##8m + 2/m##. We can use calculus, or we can use a trick involving the arithmetic-geometric mean inequality: for ##a, b > 0## we have
[tex] \frac{1}{2}(a+b) \geq \sqrt{a b} \Longrightarrow a+b \geq 2 \sqrt{ab},[/tex] with equality holding if and only if ##a = b##. So, applying this we have
[tex] 8m + \frac{2}{m} \geq 2 \sqrt{8m \frac{2}{m}} = 2 \sqrt{16} = 8,[/tex] with equality holding only when ##8m = 2/m,## or ##m^2 = 1/4##, or ##m = \pm 1/2 \longrightarrow m = 1/2##.
 

1. What is the definition of an absolute minimum value?

An absolute minimum value is the lowest point on a graph or function, meaning there is no other point with a lower value.

2. How do you find the absolute minimum value of a function?

To find the absolute minimum value of a function, you can use the process of differentiation to find the critical points. Once you have the critical points, plug them into the original function to determine which one has the lowest value. This will be the absolute minimum value.

3. What is the significance of the slope in finding the absolute minimum value?

The slope, or rate of change, of a function at a specific point can help determine if that point is an absolute minimum. If the slope is positive, the point is a local minimum, but not necessarily an absolute minimum. If the slope is zero, it indicates a critical point which could potentially be an absolute minimum.

4. Can a function have more than one absolute minimum value?

No, a function can only have one absolute minimum value. This is because an absolute minimum is the lowest point on a graph or function, and there cannot be two points with the same lowest value.

5. Is finding the absolute minimum value of a function always necessary?

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