Straightening 2024-T42 Aluminum

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The discussion centers on the necessity of completing straightening operations on 2024-T42 aluminum prior to the natural aging process. Participants explore the implications of aging timeframes and the effects of temperature on the material's properties, particularly in relation to safety-critical applications.

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  • One participant questions the timing of straightening operations relative to the natural aging process of 2024-T42 aluminum, suggesting that if aging takes 96 hours, straightening could occur within that timeframe without freezing.
  • Another participant provides references to publications from the Aluminum Association, indicating a lack of definitive answers but encouraging further exploration of the topic.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of working with the metal in an annealed condition for straightening, noting that as age hardening progresses, the material becomes harder to manipulate and more susceptible to issues like spring back and cracking.
  • This participant suggests that while some delay in straightening may be acceptable, it should not exceed 1 or 2 hours if full hardening occurs at 96 hours, and expresses concern about using freezing as a method to inhibit age hardening in safety-critical components.
  • Another comment references practical experiences with aluminum structures at McMurdo Station, highlighting issues with sagging and bowing, which may imply challenges in material performance under certain conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the timing and methods for straightening 2024-T42 aluminum, with no consensus reached on the best practices or implications of delaying the process.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of the annealed condition for straightening and the potential risks associated with aging and freezing, but specific assumptions and definitions regarding acceptable delays and the impact of temperature on aging remain unresolved.

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Why is it necessary to complete straightening operations prior to completion of natural aging of 2024-T42 material? I believe the controlling specification says to place parts into a freezer to slow down the aging process if you cannot straighten right away.
Does this mean that if natural aging takes 96 hours, I can straighten any time within the 96 hours without placing in a freezer?
 
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While I don't know the answer to your question, you might find it here in this Aluminum Association publication:

http://www.aluminum.org/sites/default/files/Rolling_Aluminum_From_The_Mine_Through_The_Mill.pdf

and here's another reference although somewhat technical:

http://www.jnhaide.com/pdf/AMS2770H.pdf

In the meantime, perhaps some other PF member will comment on this thread and be able to more definitively answer your question.
 
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It is just a situation of having the metal in the annealed condition for any straightening or other forming operations . As the age hardening process develops the metal gets harder to work and more prone to spring back and cracking .

Ideally the metal should be worked in the freshly annealed condition . Some small delay may be acceptable but if 96 hours is the time for full hardening to develop then acceptable delay would not usually be more than 1 or 2 hours .

Freezing to inhibit age hardening is a non preferred process in the manufacture of safety critical components .
 
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at MCMURDO STATION - the aluminum steps to the buildings sagged and bowed in the worst way. so much for the aluminium associations.( danger will robinson ! )
 

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