Streamlines around a sphere (qualitative)

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of streamlines around a sphere as depicted in a figure from Bird Stuart and Lightfoot. Participants explore the implications of spacing between streamlines, particularly in relation to the assumption of evenly spaced streamfunctions and their representation of flow rates.

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  • One participant interprets the spacing of streamfunctions as indicative of volumetric flow rate, suggesting that closer streamlines indicate faster flow.
  • Another participant agrees with this interpretation but questions the validity of the figures as actual representations of streamlines, suggesting they are schematic.
  • A participant emphasizes that the physical distance between streamlines is not meaningful unless the inflow is constant, arguing that the spacing in streamfunction space is what matters for determining flow rates.
  • Another participant reiterates the importance of the distance in streamfunction space, noting that two pairs of streamlines can originate at the same physical distance but may not represent the same flow rates.
  • A later reply acknowledges that while equal distances in streamfunction space can indicate equal flow rates far upstream and downstream, this is not a general rule applicable in all cases.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of streamfunction spacing in relation to flow rates, but there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the figures and the general applicability of certain rules about streamline spacing.

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Participants note that the discussion is limited by the schematic nature of the figures and the assumptions regarding inflow conditions, which may affect the interpretation of the spacing between streamlines.

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Hi PF!

Attached is an figure from Bird Stuart and Lightfoot. I'm wondering if anyone can comment about the difference in spacing of these streamlines assuming each streamfunction is evenly spaced (or does this requirement make this picture invalid)?

My interpretation assuming each streamfunction sketched is evenly spaced, meaning ##\psi = 1,2,3...##: the difference between any two streamfunctions is volumetric flow rate. Then streamlines closer together would imply faster flow, so that the flow is the fastest in the far field before and after the solid body in figures a, b, that flow is fastest before the solid body in figures c and d, and that flow is fastest close to the solid body in figure e. Assuming the streamfunctions are evenly spaced, is this interpretation true?
 

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Your interpretation is correct, but it seems to me that the figures are only schematic, and don't represent plots of the actual streamlines.
 
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Thanks, I was thinking the same!
 
I'd also like to point out that the distance in physical space between steamlines is meaningless unless the inflow is constant. It's the distance in ##\psi## space that matters. Two pairs of streamlines can both originate ##\Delta y## apart from each other, but they still may not have the same ##Q## between them.
 
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Totally! This is an important point boneh3ad.
 
boneh3ad said:
I'd also like to point out that the distance in physical space between steamlines is meaningless unless the inflow is constant. It's the distance in ##\psi## space that matters. Two pairs of streamlines can both originate ##\Delta y## apart from each other, but they still may not have the same ##Q## between them.
In this system, far upstream and far downstream, equal delta y identify equal Qs.
 
Chestermiller said:
In this system, far upstream and far downstream, equal delta y identify equal Qs.

Sure, but that's not a general rule.
 

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