Substances whose chemical reaction is easily perceptiple

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying pairs of substances whose chemical reactions are easily perceptible. Participants analyze various combinations of reactants, considering their reactivity and observable changes during the reactions. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and practical application of chemical principles.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 suggests that the reaction between Br2 and NaCl would not produce noticeable changes due to the nature of the reactants, while proposing that the reaction between HCl and Cu would lead to a visible color change.
  • Post 2 argues that the reaction between Cl2 and NaI would produce iodine, resulting in a dark brown color that is easily noticeable, and states that the reaction with HCl and Cu does not occur because copper cannot replace hydrogen.
  • Post 3 acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the reducing potentials of Ag and Cu, and raises a new question about the reaction between H2SO4 and NaCl, questioning the expected products based on standard potentials.
  • Post 4 inquires whether concentrated H2SO4 is relevant to the reaction discussed in Post 3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on which chemical reactions are easily perceptible, with no consensus reached on the correct answer to the initial exercise. Additionally, there is ongoing uncertainty regarding the reaction of H2SO4 with NaCl and its products.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference standard potentials and the conditions under which reactions occur, indicating that assumptions about concentration and state (liquid vs. aqueous) may affect the outcomes discussed.

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I was trying to solve the following exercise:

Choose the option that has the pair of substances whose chemical reaction is easily perceptiple
a)Br2(aq) + NaCl(aq)
b) Cl2(aq) + NaI(aq)
c) H2(g) + MgSO4(aq)
d) Ag(c) + ZnSO4(aq)
e) HCl(aq) + Cu(c)

I would say if the salt was an alkali salt, a would discolor the solution (Br2 is brown/red), as Br2 + H2O -> HBrO + HBr, and the equilibrum tends to form the products when the solution is basic. But the salt is NaCl, so nothing would happen
The second one I would say no change would be noticed
The third I would say some of the SO4-- could reduce to SO2 or some of the Mg++ to Mg, oxydating the H2 to H2O, but in a very low scale, so nothing would be noticed too
For the third, as ZnSO4 forms a acid solution, I would say some of the silver would oxydate to Ag+, even silver being a noble metal. This will occur with a low velocity but I would say it could be noticed.
For the last one, as Cu isn't a noble metal, I would say it will fastly oxidate to Cu2+, and the solution will color to blue, easily noticed

I chose e as the answer, but by book is saying it is b. Why is that?
 
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The reaction in b) will make sodium chloride and iodine. The iodine would give the solution a very dark brown colour that would be hard to miss. The answer isn't e) because that reaction doesn't happen. Copper is one of the few metal which are actually less reactive than hydrogen, so it can't replace it in the HCl.
 
Thanks, I saw where was my mistake now,i thought ag and cu had negative reducing potentials, not positive (even ag being a noble metal)
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In another exercise i have the following reaction
H2SO4(l) + NaCl(c)
The answer is that it forms a gas
But I searched the reducing potential of the reaction
SO4 2- + 4H+ + 2e- -> H2SO3 + H2O
This reaction is in atkins' book , and i presume H2SO4 should be H2O and SO2
Anyway, the standard potential is +0.17v, assuming H+ = 1mol/l and so2 = 1 mol/l, which is not any absurd
And this potential is not even closer to the potential required to oxidate cl- (1.36 v), or the one to oxidate oh- to H2O and O2 (0.4v), so in an aquous solution i would say nothing would occur. But it says H2SO4 is liquid (=pure), what happens in this case?
 

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