Suggestions for FTIR Experiment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around suggestions for conducting an experiment using an FTIR (Fourier-transform infrared spectroscopy) device. Participants explore potential applications and the type of data that can be obtained from FTIR, considering the limited knowledge of the original poster (OP) regarding FTIR.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the OP's understanding of the information obtainable from FTIR.
  • One participant suggests using FTIR to measure conductivity in materials like superconductors, but this is challenged as potentially misleading.
  • A later reply clarifies that the term "conductivity" is vague and emphasizes the distinction between optical and electrical conductivity.
  • Another participant mentions that analyzing optical conductivity requires additional analysis, such as using Kramers-Kronig relations.
  • The OP provides details about the FTIR output, noting that it includes absorbance/transmittance spectra as a function of wave number and mentions the use of an ATR element for solids and liquids.
  • One participant proposes analyzing materials like carbon, specifically comparing graphite bands and amorphous carbon bands across different samples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the use of FTIR for measuring conductivity, with some suggesting it is feasible while others argue that the terminology and implications are misleading. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approaches for the OP's experiment.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the need for the OP to understand the raw data obtainable from FTIR before proceeding with suggestions for experiments. The discussion highlights the complexity of analyzing optical conductivity and the potential confusion surrounding the term "conductivity."

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Hi guys,
I am going to get a shot to perform a short experiment of my choosing with an FTIR device.
Do you have any suggestions/seen any interesting things I could use it for?
(Please keep in mind my knowledge in FTIR in very limited so I would really appreciate interesting suggestions which are easy to do).
 
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First if all, are you aware of the type of information that you can obtain from a FTIR?

Zz.
 
I know that people use ftir to measure conductivity, so you can try it with materials like superconductors
 
vatlychatran said:
I know that people use ftir to measure conductivity, so you can try it with materials like superconductors

This is misleading, and the use of the term "conductivity" is vague.

One might be able to arrive at SOME information about the OPTICAL CONDUCTIVITY of a solid, but one would be hard pressed to be able to get any useful information on the electrical conductivity. Unfortunately, the use of the term "conductivity" often means "electrical conductivity", and that is why I said your statement is misleading.

Secondly, even information about optical conductivity requires a bit more analysis, i.e. it just doesn't drop out of the data and onto your lap. One may have to invoke Kramers-Kronig relations in analyzing the data to get some information about the optical conductivity.

In any case, one has to first know what type of raw data one can get out of a FTIR experiment, and that was what I asked the OP to see if he/she knows this. Without such knowledge, it is meaningless to present any other information that are derived from the data.

Zz.
 
Ah, you are right, i mean optical conductivity.
 
Hi, sorry for the late reply.
The FTIR Output is the Absorbance/Transmittance spectrum as function of wave number. max resolution for me is cm^(-1).
There is also an ATR element I can use use to measure the spectrum for solids and liquids.
 
You can to make an analysis of any material, for example carbon, is very interesting this topic because you can compare graphite bands and amorphous carbon bands, for different samples .
 

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