Sun's energy converted into biomass?

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The discussion centers on whether the energy from the sun is converted into biomass and the implications of this process on the Earth's mass. Participants explore the relationship between solar energy, biomass production, and the net mass change of the Earth over time.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that while solar energy contributes to biomass, the net effect is negligible when considering the release of energy upon the death of organisms.
  • Others argue that the concept of mass defect in biological processes suggests a tiny difference in mass due to energy stored in molecular bonds, although this is still minimal.
  • A participant provides calculations indicating that the mass gained from solar energy conversion is less than 0.1 kg/s, which is insignificant compared to the total biomass on Earth.
  • There is a mention that the Earth is in thermal equilibrium, implying that the energy gained from the sun and geothermal sources is balanced by energy lost.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of solar energy conversion into biomass, with some suggesting it has a negligible impact on Earth's mass while others highlight the theoretical aspects of mass change. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall balance of energy gained and lost by the Earth.

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Participants note that the calculations depend on various assumptions, including the efficiency of energy conversion by plants and the definitions of biomass and energy loss mechanisms.

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Does the energy from the sun get converted into biomass? If so, how much extra weight is added to the Earth every year?
 
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While some small fraction of the solar radiation is stored in biomass, this is released again after the death of the organisms. The net effect is zero, if you neglect fossil remains (which we burn in significant amounts currently). Note that solar radiation does not create new matter - the atoms were there before, too, the sun just adds a bit of energy.
 
I think he is referring to the mass defect of complex molecules created by biological processes compared to the mass of the raw constituents the Earth would have without life. Basically, if you take a balance of the energy received vs. the energy emitted by the Earth, there will be a tiny difference due to the energy stored in molecular bonds.
 
Geordie Ross said:
Does the energy from the sun get converted into biomass? If so, how much extra weight is added to the Earth every year?

Well... Kind of.

Biomass refers to the mass of biological organisms in a particular area. The area does not have to be geographical. It can be, for example, the plants in a forest as compared to the animals in the same forest. Or the pine trees as compared to the maple trees in a forest. Or the termites in a termite nest as opposed to the other organisms.

Total biomass on Earth is many billions of tons.

As others have pointed out, the sun's energy, even when captured, will produce a tiny effect. Recall the equation e=mc^2. So to get 1 kg of mass you need 9E16 Joules of energy. Plants are about 1% efficient fixing solar energy. The Earth presents a disk to the sun of about 6000 km in radius and the solar constant is about 1 kW/m^2. And quite a bit of the planet isn't green plants. So the mass gained is something less than 0.1 kg/s. This is to be compared to the mass of all living things on Earth, which is extremely large in comparison.

Also, as others have pointed out, this is (very nearly) equal to the heat losses from the Earth. If it wasn't, the Earth would be heating or cooling to match. (The differences is primarily down to energy stored as biological material like coal, peat moss, limestone, etc., plus some changes in temperature.) So the net is very nearly zero.
 
Interesting, thanks. Does the Earth gain more energy from the sun and geothermal heat than it looses overall?
 

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