Supermassive black hole in the Large Magellanic Cloud?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of a supermassive black hole (SMBH) existing in the Large Magellanic Cloud (LMC) as part of a science fiction narrative. Participants explore the scientific plausibility of such a formation, considering the LMC's characteristics and mass.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that while the LMC is not known to have a supermassive black hole, it raises the question of whether it could potentially form one given its mass.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that the LMC lacks a supermassive black hole, referencing a paper that suggests an upper limit of about 10 million solar masses for a possible SMBH in the LMC.
  • This second participant points to rotation curves that could support the existence of a SMBH of around 1 million solar masses in the LMC, aligning with its known mass.
  • A later reply acknowledges that while a SMBH in the LMC is not impossible, it would be unexpected due to the galaxy's small size and lack of a bulge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the existence and plausibility of a supermassive black hole in the LMC, with some suggesting it is possible while others find it unlikely.

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The discussion includes references to specific scientific papers and data, which may have limitations based on assumptions or definitions not fully explored in the thread.

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Ok, I know, it's science fiction, you can make anything work if you really want it to. I'm planning out a sci-fi story which I wanted to try and keep as grounded as possible in believable scientific concepts. For context, the basic premise is: humanity detects a wormhole on the outer edge of the solar system, and sends an expedition through it. The two locations I had in mind as to where the wormhole could lead include either M87 or the Large Magellanic Cloud. I want a supermassive black hole to feature in the story as part of the setting (hence M87 being one of them).

My question is simple: while the LMC does not have a supermassive black hole, is it beyond the realms of possibility for it to be able to form one? The LMC is approximately 158,200 light years from Earth, so we have a 158,200 year delay on anything that occurs there. Does the LMC have enough mass contained within to form a SMBH?
 
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I don't think you can say that, "the LMC does not have a supermassive black hole". This paper puts an upper limit of about 10 million solar masses on a SMBH in the LMC. So it could easily have a SMBH of a few million solar masses, similar to the one in the center of the Milky Way. Look at Figure 10 in this paper. The rotation curves look very consistent with a SMBH of 1 million solar masses, which would be consistent with the known mass of the LMC.
 
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Perfect! Thank you!
 
A SMBH in the LMC is not impossible, but it would be unexpected - it's a small galaxy with no bulge.
 
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